So..how many of us hookers have morals?

[Shayla]

I don't care if it's legit. I make money and you get laid. We're square.

[MUSHROOM MAN]

We are all just stimulating the economy, someone has to!

[rrabbit6926]

Hmm why can't it ever be the other way around .

[Laz]

Originally Posted by acp5762

I am going to let you look at this anyway you'd like. Sometimes we step on other peoples toes in the wake of proveing a point. Not everyone will agree, thats whats happened here. If my point of view isn't good enough for anyone, well then it's not. In your mind if prostitution is a legitimate buisness that contributes to the well being of society then you can live in that notion. If you feel that all your encounters with prostitutes have been an essential factor to your personal happiness then patronizing prostitutes has become or is becomming a necessary part of your life. But you must consider this last point. No legitimate buisness would intentionally expose any client or patron to any danger or adversitiy.

Tobacco - Need I say more.

Originally Posted by acp5762

No, my arguement is not convoluted on any level. It just so happens everything here is one sided. You know what your situation was in the military you know what you were there for. You are an employee of the United States Armed Forces. Even if you were a guest of a host country you were briefed on possible problems and the host country didn't intentionally place you in harms way. Everyone here absolutely must be right and they come up with off the wall possibilities of rebuttal like you just did. But apparently you some clarification to what would be danger. A client arriving at a prostitutes incall is not in any way prevy or aware of any adversities before hand he's only equiped with a donation. As he is entering the room and lays down the donation a hidden subject( Possibly a Pimp) appears from behind a door and throws him out keeping the donation. The provider is there knowing all this would be taking place. She knowingly, willingly placed the client in harms way through deception, resulting in the client being robbed.

Your comparing an escort to thieves. No one I know on this board would try to justify the actions of a whore ripping off clients. The ladies on this board would be the first to tell a client to screen and research before seeing someone. They would happily advise or "train" potential clients on what to watch out for.

Neither of your examples work.

[Laz]

Originally Posted by rrabbit6926

Hmm why can't it ever be the other way around .

It probably could be if you could handle performing for the variety of customers these ladies do. I know I could not do their job.

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by Laz

Tobacco - Need I say more.



Your comparing an escort to thieves. No one I know on this board would try to justify the actions of a whore ripping off clients. The ladies on this board would be the first to tell a client to screen and research before seeing someone. They would happily advise or "train" potential clients on what to watch out for.

Neither of your examples work.

They all work. You're just trying to pull a rebuttal out of a hat. There was a prostitute a few months ago in Metairie La that was strangled at a hotel. You always hear about clients being robbed even a few on eccie have robbed clients. These things happen and more often than you might realize.The whole point of this thread has gotten totally lost. Just because you don't know any doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Incidently Tobacco packaging has warnings.

[Naomi4u]

Acp, Believe it or not there are actually a few of us that have never had bad experiences in this hobby. I've been in this business 2 year on and off and have never posted an alert. I will explain: I have never been robbed, beaten, stood up, shorted. You can search my posts, review boards and confirm that. I have also never had an alert posted on me. Also I've never robbed/stolen from anyone. Stop putting everyone in a category. If you really think we're all horrible people then maybe you shouldn't be here. It is not fair to talk about us like this. You're no better than anyone here. You are here aren't you? So stop it.

[MOCHAakaMOCHA]

Originally Posted by acp5762

Our jobs define us. They say alot about who we are. This is what you chose to do. It's not really a legitimate job, cause it's illegal. In fact if you ever get busted and convicted the property that you've obtained from prostitution could be legally conviscated. You say you have morals, ok so you do. But you're still a prostitute.

My "job" doesn't define me lol. I'm not a ho....I ho

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Acp, Believe it or not there are actually a few of us that have never had bad experiences in this hobby. I've been in this business 2 year on and off and have never posted an alert. I will explain: I have never been robbed, beaten, stood up, shorted. You can search my posts, review boards and confirm that. I have also never had an alert posted on me. Also I've never robbed/stolen from anyone. Stop putting everyone in a category. If you really think we're all horrible people then maybe you shouldn't be here. It is not fair to talk about us like this. You're no better than anyone here. You are here aren't you? So stop it.

I never said in any terms directly or implied that an escort was a horrible person. In fact this thread was originally about "If Providers had morals" I actually was trying to post something that would be more on a positive note until I was baraged with insults because I didn't consider Escorting a legitimate buisness. Now this thread has become a debate on the legitimacy of prostitution as a buisness. To stay with the "Forums Guidlines" We all know there are these guys who sell stuff, lol. and make a living at it. They often times call themselves buisness men. Now if you know what Iam talking about how legit is that. Now there isn't one girl in here that I have implied was a "bad Person" by virtue of her being an escort. Lets face it though not all girls are like you and others. Clients have been robbed and beaten just goes with the territory its an easy field to play dirty sometimes.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by acp5762

You wrote this for two reasons. One to down play my efforts as an athlete and two to raise the bar on the legitimacy of prostitution. It's really kind of funny how Iam being scorned for being insulting by making one statement and everyone else is directing insults back at me.

As you have been with much of this thread, you are quite wrong.

The reason I wrote this had nothing to do with down paying your efforts as a football player--it was just an easy parallel to use to point out how inconsistent your logis is. You make a subjective, insulting (yes, calling someone's work illegitimate is insulting) comment about a lot of people on the board--but when the same word is tossed back at your work you get annoyed. My point exactly.

Illegitimate has meaning beyond "doesn't pay taxes", just as "fagot" has meaning beyond "a collection of small sticks and twigs". You seem to relish in repeatedly saying the ladies are criminals, but think they should be happy to be called such. You repeatedly point out that ladies put others in danger by hiding pimps in their rooms, etc., and this danger to the clients is part of what makes this work illegitimate. That is a very warped sense of things because:

--the ladies in this business suffer far more harm from clients than the other way around

--what % of the ladies here do you think are pimp run? But you put a wide blanket out there, covering many of them who would never have a pimp anywhere near their business

--there are lots of jobs with dangers associated, but somehow you discount much more significant dangers and in your mind those other jobs are still "legitimate". And I suspect most men here understand what dangers are out there.

--there are rip off people in many businesses: home repairs, car mechanics, etc. Those who are dishonest should be condemned, but not the entire profession. the same with the ladies working here: those who do pose a threat to clients are bad people, those who do not are good people. You seem to not see the distinction, or at least condemn the innocent with the guilty.

It smells like you were ripped off by a provider. If so, I'm sorry it happened. But to discredit a whole class because of that is wrong. Isn't that the definition of stereotyping? I have spent time with a lot of ladies. None have robbed me, beaten me, waved a gun in my face, etc. The vast majority gave me more than I had reason to expect, and when I left I considered every cent I spent on the evening a good investment.

I don't see the illegitimacy you keep wanting to tar them with. Give it a rest, you dig your hole deeper each time you post on this thread trying to justify your original post (which I do believe was mostly just poor wording and a little hyperbolie on your part).

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by Old-T

As you have been with much of this thread, you are quite wrong.

The reason I wrote this had nothing to do with down paying your efforts as a football player--it was just an easy parallel to use to point out how inconsistent your logis is. You make a subjective, insulting (yes, calling someone's work illegitimate is insulting) comment about a lot of people on the board--but when the same word is tossed back at your work you get annoyed. My point exactly.

Illegitimate has meaning beyond "doesn't pay taxes", just as "fagot" has meaning beyond "a collection of small sticks and twigs". You seem to relish in repeatedly saying the ladies are criminals, but think they should be happy to be called such. You repeatedly point out that ladies put others in danger by hiding pimps in their rooms, etc., and this danger to the clients is part of what makes this work illegitimate. That is a very warped sense of things because:

--the ladies in this business suffer far more harm from clients than the other way around

--what % of the ladies here do you think are pimp run? But you put a wide blanket out there, covering many of them who would never have a pimp anywhere near their business

--there are lots of jobs with dangers associated, but somehow you discount much more significant dangers and in your mind those other jobs are still "legitimate". And I suspect most men here understand what dangers are out there.

--there are rip off people in many businesses: home repairs, car mechanics, etc. Those who are dishonest should be condemned, but not the entire profession. the same with the ladies working here: those who do pose a threat to clients are bad people, those who do not are good people. You seem to not see the distinction, or at least condemn the innocent with the guilty.

It smells like you were ripped off by a provider. If so, I'm sorry it happened. But to discredit a whole class because of that is wrong. Isn't that the definition of stereotyping? I have spent time with a lot of ladies. None have robbed me, beaten me, waved a gun in my face, etc. The vast majority gave me more than I had reason to expect, and when I left I considered every cent I spent on the evening a good investment.

I don't see the illegitimacy you keep wanting to tar them with. Give it a rest, you dig your hole deeper each time you post on this thread trying to justify your original post (which I do believe was mostly just poor wording and a little hyperbolie on your part).

I haven't been robbed either. But it does happen. I am not stereotyping either. You didn't like what I posted and thats ok, really. I do realize unfortunately many people take an offense to anything I post. I am not your average hobbyist in fact, I am not a hobbyist at all. But it is essential for me to understand this micro culture ya have here. I think if you were in my position you would understand, but unfortunately you're not. Nothing I have posted in this thread was intentionally meant to harm or demean anyone. This thread has stretch on and on and I think it's because theres a need for me to appologize to those it may have insulted. So I am appologizing to anyone that has been insulted because of anything that I have written on this thread.

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by acp5762

. . . In fact this thread was originally about "If Providers had morals" . . . Now this thread has become a debate on the legitimacy of prostitution as a buisness. . .

You have been a willing, paying customer in this enterprise... does that not constitute business?

Originally Posted by acp5762

. . . . This is what you chose to do. It's not really a legitimate job, cause it's illegal. . . . You say you have morals, ok so you do. But you're still a prostitute.

And you are still a paying customer.... does your money PAID make you morally superior to their money EARNED?

Originally Posted by Shayla

I don't care if it's legit. I make money and you get laid. We're square.

Sounds morally equivalent to me!

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by MrGiz

You have been a willing, paying customer in this enterprise... does that not constitute business?


And you are still a paying customer.... does your money PAID make you morally superior to their money EARNED?


Sounds morally equivalent to me!

I am not sure what you are talking about. I've never paid for any access to this site. Besides this thread has no where else to go I am through with it.

[MrGiz]

Originally Posted by acp5762

What Am I paying for?

Well.... let's see...

Kari Kane - http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=215620
Activities: Lots of good conversation, LFK, BBBJ, CFS, DATY
Fee: 200

Alana - http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=219724
Activities: LFK, lots of cuddling BBJ, DATY, more CFS in Mish.
Fee: 200

Annef - http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=256859
Activities: Kissing, Cuddling, BBBJ, DATY, Mish and lots of very good conversation, her specialty and mine too.

Alexxxa Jordyn - http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=258175
Activities: Cuddling, LFK, Conversation, BBBJ, DATY, 69, CFS
Fee: 2$$

I dunno.... what would you say you've paid for?

[Wheretonow]

If a client isn't aware that there's a possibilty that he may be robbed or ripped off; or contact an STD; or have a wreck on the way to the incall; or possibly have a myriad of other unpleasant things happen to him when all he is seeking is an hour or so of pleasure, then he's essentially whistling in the dark. Coaches send players on the field knowing that some of them will be injured - do the players know that? Of course they do. If one participates in seeing providers and doesn't consider the possibility that you might get arrested or robbed or catch a disease or get found out by your SO and take precautions to alleviate the likelihood of any of these unpleasant things happening, you're being very careless. So if your only point is there are possible dangers in seeing providers I agree; if you're trying to say that seeing providers is the only activity where one of the participants may knowingly expose you to danger I disagree.