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Old 09-28-2013, 02:49 PM   #151
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I don't have another handle I don't have a reason to ontop of that it is not allowed so why would I
Jesus...I already said it was my mistake and explained why I thought that.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:24 PM   #152
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Lana I am not going to qoute your whole post, but don't think for a minute that I dont believe a lady has a right to say no, and dont think for a minute that i think it should not be respected by a client.
The statement I quoted seemed a bit harsh to me, but if you say you opine otherwise I can take your word for this, I must have misunderstood, I apologize.

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In my eyes he did the right thing by discontinuing the session and then letting us know what she did.
Yet the consensus on E is it's wrong for her or anyone else for that matter, to defend themselves against allegations ? This is the behavior that allows "Predators" to thrive and go unidentified to prey on others. This is the same for providers and hobbyist. The thing I don't understand is why the same people jump from thread to thread trying to be the JUDGE,JURY AND EXECUTIONER!!!

Some of you get offended (or turned on) and post your rants, even before the other person has a chance to respond and present their version of the facts. This behavior is not the same demonstrated at your jobs, during exchanges I'm sure. This is a business transaction as well,(re:booking,communication ,donation,review; the actual date should be conducted more on an casual level, while maintaining respect for each others boundaries)treat it as such. I only state that because a lot of you are business men, who speak a lot of business etiquette. Apply it here with us women to, we are expected to as well. This is especially crucial in reviews as they can not be removed. They can be contested but by the time the provider sees the post it's been TROLLED and therefore no longer a valuable resource of information to potential clients/providers.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:40 PM   #153
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Yet the consensus on E is it's wrong for her or anyone else for that matter, to defend themselves against allegations ?
Look, you do not have a large enough sample size to say it is consistent action on the ick that people can't defend themselves. The two situations I have seen you post on, the subject matter had enough "other" history to have the veracity of their claims questioned. The first was a provider who had some questionable reviews already and now this.

Whether you ignore or deny, Kitty has a loooooooooong history here. She chooses to go about her business in a manner that causes many to question her "facts", and that is being kind. I have seen many ladies offer counters to claims where they were equally supported and questioned. Sorry, but Kitty lost the benefit of the doubt in this community. She furthers those problems by denying her history and continually playing the victim. She tried owning her issues at one time, and many in the community supported her, including me. That unfortunately fell apart quickly.
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:17 PM   #154
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But with that being said, dont think I think its ok to agree to an ISO where it is clearly stated what the OP wants and then start saying no after taking payment. If you don't offer a service thats ok. But don't agree to it, take the money, then say you don't offer that and not expect a guy to come here and put out there for us to see how she handles her business.
Touché ... I agree, I stay away from ISOs
However if it was made clear which she claims she did so, then it changes the whole aspect of things does it not ?
Agreeing to do something, taking, payment, then refusing to perform the agreed upon activity is wrong. Not arguing this at all, however the provider should reserve the right to stop or decline services prior to taking payment. The op changed up the agreement first, she accommodated him with no attempt at an up charge from what I see. So when she (allegedly) declined video and rough head, he in turn should have (not saying he wasn't), been considerate of her comfort zone. After all it was a Bbbj that moved from car date to in call and she did perform the Bbbj.

Why respond to an ISO for video ...
Same thing as asking why post an ISO for a car date, if you really want an in call ?

!!! COMMUNICATION RULES THE NATION !!!

Just like he told her he changed his mind and wanted an incall, and she obliged; She could have told him she did not agree to the video just like she said ...
It's not a crazy tale I would never agree to be filmed under any circumstances. Unless I'm being taped by an actual producer lol
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Old 09-28-2013, 06:43 PM   #155
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Look, you do not have a large enough sample size to say it is consistent action on the ick that people can't defend themselves. The two situations I have seen you post on, the subject matter had enough "other" history to have the veracity of their claims questioned. The first was a provider who had some questionable reviews already and now this.
I may not have been here long but I read a lot. I agree though I may have made to broad of a statement, in my reference to all of E.
However I see a lot of providers and hobbyist alike telling the "grieved party" not to post contending reviews,or complaining about a troublesome client. They say it is bad pr and it ruins business, it will turn off potential clients. This sounds to me like the "provider" is under a "hush or else " situation.
I speak from first hand experience and I believe that is way more definite than being around a while. I may be new to E but I have been street smart for a very long time. I sit back and I observe people's mannerisms, mood alterations and character. I pick up everything everyone around me is putting down and I find ways to perfect and apply it. Or dissect and pick it apart like I did with "Btgd" and Pvitt ... Still no reply on the "Btgd fake review" thread, last I checked at least. My apologies if I am mistaken.

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Whether you ignore or deny, Kitty has a loooooooooong history here. She chooses to go about her business in a manner that causes many to question her "facts", and that is being kind. I have seen many ladies offer counters to claims where they were equally supported and questioned. Sorry, but Kitty lost the benefit of the doubt in this community. She furthers those problems by denying her history and continually playing the victim. She tried owning her issues at one time, and many in the community supported her, including me. That unfortunately fell apart quickly.
I am not contesting her history. I am merely stating that it is not impossible, however unlikely this may be to some of you. I can respect that everyone has their own opinion, but an opinion becomes an agenda when you compulsively express it.
I have only posted on a few situations because I do not want to be all over every drama thread around. I do not contend their side but point out valid points others seem to have "accidentally" overlooked. Then there's the TROLLS ...
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:06 PM   #156
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Can't we just fuck and get it over with lol
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:10 PM   #157
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Can't we just fuck and get it over with lol
I'm down
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:15 PM   #158
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I'm down
Now we are talking
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:27 PM   #159
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I may not have been here long but I read a lot. I agree though I may have made to broad of a statement, in my reference to all of E.
However I see a lot of providers and hobbyist alike telling the "grieved party" not to post contending reviews,or complaining about a troublesome client. They say it is bad pr and it ruins business, it will turn off potential clients. This sounds to me like the "provider" is under a "hush or else " situation.
#1 It isn't often that you see ladies posting in public about a troublesome client, as that information tends to be shared in ladies only areas more often that not.

#2 Typically the providers and hobbyists who recommend leaving alone a no review are doing so out of experience. A lady who starts a thread "contesting" her no review by presenting her version of the experience brings more attention to the review than it would have otherwise received. That is an undisputed fact. Guys who use reviews to research a provider tend to look at several and look for trends, good or bad. On the other thread I mentioned, the young lady brought more attention to her reviews, which caused people to check said reviews, which caused people to realize many of her "yes" reviews weren't so good either.

#3 If you MUST post something to contest a review, I can guarantee no mod has ever told a young lady to post "her side" but then also get into a pissing match with everyone about why she is right and the reviewer was wrong. The best ones I have read post their side and leave it alone. Soon it goes away and it likely (if she did a good job showing a professional response) makes her look to be someone who has her ducks in a row. She still brought additional exposure to the review, but at least she didn't show that she was being unhinged about the issue (this thread is a PERFECT example).

Icky is an extremely small % of the overall sex trade. A bad review here does kill someone if they do a good job marketing themselves in many different areas.
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Old 09-28-2013, 11:06 PM   #160
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Seriously stop you guys keep doing this makes me feel like I'm back in high school this is really sad You don't like her fine YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SEE HER JUST LET HER BE LAST TIME I CHECKED WE WERE ADULTS
Lets just move on please


NOW LET'S ALL GO And GET OFF AND LEAVE THIS ALONE I
READU FOR SOME DAMN COCK
Ice, you seem like a nice girl, but you are young.

Trust me its just like the song, high school never ends.

And to everyone: the internet is the primo place to talk shit about people you don't or never will know. Hell it may be the internets primary purpose. KL, you pecar a mighty big trail here and its gonna draw attention. KL, your anger draws lots of attention. My flippant attitude draws its share too.

High school never ends......
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Old 09-28-2013, 11:09 PM   #161
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Can't we just fuck and get it over with lol
Finally something in this thread that actually sounds like fun!
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:54 AM   #162
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I think trying to give certain individuals advice on this site, both male and female, is like pissing into the wind......
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Old 09-29-2013, 02:36 AM   #163
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No way... this thread is STILL going on?

I am so lucky to have such dedicated haters! Wow, and not a single one of them has ever spent time with me! That is so cute how they think they know what they are talking about. They sound like Kitty Lamour Experts!

Thank you Lana. You are a very intuitive young lady and I am impressed. You would make a hell of a good attorney.

Iceskaterg... you are so adorable... It's impossible to stay glum when you are around... You rock girl!

Here is my quick version of this thread... enjoy!































































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Old 09-29-2013, 07:02 AM   #164
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^really?
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:14 AM   #165
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Kitty, I don't know you and you don't know me, but I must keep it real with you. You know why certain people always fuck with you on this board? It's because you always respond to it, thus providing entertainment for them. I have an idea for you, you know who your constant haters are, then just simply put their asses on ignore. Then you will never see the shit that is being said and feel the need to have to reply. You won't be missing out on anything because it is obvious that those guys are not going to see you and the ladies don't have your back. Believe me, the shit works. You have no idea the amount of stress that it will relieve from your life if you just ignore the shit. I have had to put certain hookers and fucktards alike on ignore before in the past to keep from going "full retard" on a motherfucker. Just some friendly advice, take it or leave it.
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