SCOTUS and The Travel Ban

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Thanks for the info. I'm sure that such data, even while being the best source for information, will be somewhat incorrect in many cases.

I guess that pretty much shoots down the "extreme vetting" you so loudly announced has been in place since Bush!

The 5th amendment was crafted for fools like you!

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

If you want, I will go back and try to find statements you have made in the past that are incorrect.

which ones?

Hypocrites? Have anything to back that up?

short list
Iraq - homosexuality is legal, but the law is not respected at all or ignored. attack & killings take place.

Malaysia - claims to have religious freedom in constitution. not if one is trying to convert to another religion. justice is also not equal

Indonesia - claims to have religious freedom in constitution. discrimination is rampant. houses of worship of non-muslims get closed.

there are other forms of hypocrisy... like drinking alcohol when its prohibited. and fornicating at strip clubs and eating pork (yes!!!)

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Thanks for the info. I'm sure that such data, even while being the best source for information, will be somewhat incorrect in many cases.

"Incorrect" and "purposely incorrect" are two separate matters. When agenda driven talking-heads make an apples-to-oranges comparison by using such tainted data and they do not inform their audiences that they are using biased data, then their genuine purpose is to lie and deceive in order to advance their agenda.

[wordup666]

Is that anything like alternative facts?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by wordup666

Is that anything like alternative facts?

More like you claiming you're not Ekim the Inbred Chimp version .02.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

"Incorrect" and "purposely incorrect" are two separate matters. When agenda driven talking-heads make an apples-to-oranges comparison by using such tainted data and they do not inform their audiences that they are using biased data, then their genuine purpose is to lie and deceive in order to advance their agenda.

Then some knucklehead "cuts and pastes" the link to the "purposely incorrect" bullshit while pretending it is "authentic"!

All this bullshitting is PROVING ... the immigration vetting has been shit for years ... roughly 30+ I know about. There are places one can't get accurate records IN THIS COUNTRY .... but some yo-yo buys the bullshit "hook, line, and sinker" that some bombed out 5th world country "has their paperwork in order"!!!

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

That's pretty funny. I would say it happens here in the states too. How many religious leaders have been caught with their pants down. No pun intended. How many of us married men have committed adultery? A friend of mine from my church was responsible for introducing a young woman to the "escort" business. Hypocrisy exists all over the world.

Thanks for the insight. Not sure if I would like to vacation there, but it sounds like an interesting place.

Its hot, dry not muggy heat. Got some very nice scenery, and some good shopping.. So it's imo worth it to visit for a week.. Just do so before June-Sept, which are the 4 hottest months there..

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

which ones?

short list
Iraq - homosexuality is legal, but the law is not respected at all or ignored. attack & killings take place.

Malaysia - claims to have religious freedom in constitution. not if one is trying to convert to another religion. justice is also not equal

Indonesia - claims to have religious freedom in constitution. discrimination is rampant. houses of worship of non-muslims get closed.

there are other forms of hypocrisy... like drinking alcohol when its prohibited. and fornicating at strip clubs and eating pork (yes!!!)

You do realize that the conditions you just threw out there still exist in the good, old U.S.A. regarding homosexuality. Not as bad as 50 years ago when most gays were still in the closet because they would be attacked and killed, but still there.

I looked into your claims in the 2nd and 3rd sentences and they are certainly partly true. There are some areas in both countries where religious tolerance is not enforced. But have you taken notice of the hate crimes in THIS country lately against Muslims? Where we take great pride in freedom of religion? As written in OUR Constitution?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/u...s-muslims.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/u...lims-rise.html

And your 4th sentence is laughable because people all over the world practice the same hypocrisy. I'd be willing to bet that Muslims are much less hypocritical in this regard than others throughout the world. Just a hunch.

So yes, you are correct that Muslims are hypocrites. To what degree I do not know. Any worse than many other non-Muslim countries? I doubt it. How many married guys on this forum pledge devotion to their wives and then go out and screw around?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Then some knucklehead "cuts and pastes" the link to the "purposely incorrect" bullshit while pretending it is "authentic"!

All this bullshitting is PROVING ... the immigration vetting has been shit for years ... roughly 30+ I know about. There are places one can't get accurate records IN THIS COUNTRY .... but some yo-yo buys the bullshit "hook, line, and sinker" that some bombed out 5th world country "has their paperwork in order"!!!

You continue to show yourself to be an ignorant redneck hillbilly.

Yes, many time people who seek refuge in this country do not have their paperwork in order. And the vetting procedures in place will not permit them entry into this country for that reason. If there are any holes in the applicant's background, they are denied entry. I realize you won't take my word for this but how about reading what a former immigration officer has to say about the current vetting processes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.65ac07485ca6

Idiot.

BTW. I'm still waiting for you to let me know what lies I've told on this forum. Can't back up your BS?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I guess that pretty much shoots down the "extreme vetting" you so loudly announced has been in place since Bush!

The 5th amendment was crafted for fools like you!

And he just keeps on jabbering and whining.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

"Incorrect" and "purposely incorrect" are two separate matters. When agenda driven talking-heads make an apples-to-oranges comparison by using such tainted data and they do not inform their audiences that they are using biased data, then their genuine purpose is to lie and deceive in order to advance their agenda.

So what was Trump doing when he discussed the "17" intelligence agencies not all saying it was Russia that tried to influence our election and bringing up the Iraq intelligence blunder?

Is Trump trying to lie and decieve to advance his agenda?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by WTF

So what was Trump doing when he discussed the "17" intelligence agencies not all saying it was Russia that tried to influence our election and bringing up the Iraq intelligence blunder?

Is Trump trying to lie and deciebe to advance his agenda?

"17 intelligence agencies" was another CNN lie. Never was "17". Furthermore, FBI director Comey admitted under oath that it is entirely possible for a system to be hacked and the fact that the system had been hacked would never be known; plus, the identity of the hackers would also remain unknown. Add to that how security software giant John McAfee said the same thing, and McAfee went onto add that a hacker could purposefully leave clues to misdirect investigators. It's a tactic U.S. hackers, e.g., Stuxnet, have used against foreign adversaries. That's why Comey and Clapper couched their assessments and never declared 100% certainty.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

"17 intelligence agencies" was another CNN lie. Never was "17". Furthermore, FBI director Comey admitted under oath that it is entirely possible for a system to be hacked and the fact that the system had been hacked would never be known; plus, the identity of the hackers would also remain unknown. Add to that how security software giant John McAfee said the same thing, and McAfee went onto add that a hacker could purposefully leave clues to misdirect investigators. It's a tactic U.S. hackers, e.g., Stuxnet, have used against foreign adversaries. That's why Comey and Clapper couched their assessments and never declared 100% certainty.

So the intel agencies lied about Iraq and the Russian hack.

Is it Fake News that Russia has hacked European nations too?

Btw...CNN is way closer to the truth than what Trump tried to imply.



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[bambino]

Originally Posted by WTF

So the intel agencies lied about Iraq and the Russian hack.

Is it Fake News that Russia has hacked European nations too?

Btw...CNN is way closer to the truth than what Trump tried to imply.



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No, the NYTs, WAPO, CNN, Al Franken lied about 17 agencies agreeing that Russia "hacked" the election. Dumbfuck

https://www.google.com/amp/freebeaco...erference/amp/

Can you read?

[bamscram]

A step up, but not all the way.

https://www.grahamcluley.com/donald-...ia-hacked-dnc/