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[charlestudor2005]

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Originally Posted by Bimboknocker

That is what I thought until today. I sent a pm to what I thought was a friend, about something I thought might be trouble, and I found out what kind of a sorry son-of-a-bitch I am. An uneducated dumbass hobbyist should never speak to an expert provider. But I know now and will never do it again.

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Yeah, most providers don't like to take advice from hobbyists. No matter how gratuitous and given with the best of intentions. Providers tend to see this as meddling in their right to run their business the way they want to. For this very reason, I try and stay away from giving advice. I do have opinions which I post on the board, but I too have been burned.

Originally Posted by bluffcityguy

Well, obviously you mistook what was a friendly business relationship for a friendship.

I won't say one can never be friends with one's provider(s), but realistically, it doesn't happen as often as hobbyists want to think it does. Basically, it's still all about the Benjamins, Ulysseses, Andrews, and Alexanders. If you want to know if a provider is really your friend, see if she'll see you without any of those changing hands... In the vast majority of cases, "in your dreams..."

Cheers,

bcg

Originally Posted by MrGiz

I dunno.... how many here have asked their auto mechanic for free repairs, 'cause ya'll have always been friendly towards each other?

How many have asked their plumber for free service because you're a hell of a nice guy?

Air Conditionng guy ever give you a freebie, because of the nice smile on your face?

Hey Doc.... how about letting this bill slide? You're a Prince!!

I don't think anyone is confusing "friend" and "friendly" ...... I think some have lost memory that even though we become quite intimate with these girls.... it's still BUSINESS !!

Giz

Originally Posted by bluffcityguy

I don't see that we're disagreeing. However, to return to bimboknocker's post that got us off on this digression:

I don't know how to interpret this but that he thought the provider in question was his friend, and tried to give her a piece of friendly advice, and got a very nasty (my interpretation) "STFU and MYOB" for his trouble.

That looks to me like he may have mistaken this provider's friendly demeanor during their session(s), and/or in PMs, emails or phone calls outside of sessions, as being friendship rather than a calculatedly cordial business relationship.

And that's ultimately what I'm saying; it's a business to these ladies, and no matter how friendly they're being to you, you are probably going to get burned if you ever interpret that demeanor as being evidence of a real friendship between you and her.

And that's the last I'm going to say; I'm a bit surprised BIG C or HSP haven't jumped in and stomped my crank for once again dragging a thread far, far off its original topic (in this case, so far off topic we can't see the original topic ("Anyone got any intel about ms. inocent?") with an astronomical telescope).

Cheers,

bcg

[guest052210-1]

believe me, you will know when a provider wants to be with you. I married one and there was no doubt she loved me. However, one has to be aware of the baggage a provider can carry. Don't get me wrong, we all have baggege to carry just not from the perspective of the 'business'.
That being said, these girls are like anyone else, they just know how to do it better than most and for me, the pleasure of walking into a party, casino - whatever with a knockout, sexy chick who is making me happy was well worth the time. I would do it again.

[bluffcityguy]

Originally Posted by arcoog

believe me, you will know when a provider wants to be with you. I married one and there was no doubt she loved me. However, one has to be aware of the baggage a provider can carry. Don't get me wrong, we all have baggege to carry just not from the perspective of the 'business'.

My first ex-wife was a two time rape victim. You want to talk baggage?

I'd trade the baggage of a provider for that. In a heartbeat (so he says, never having experienced a provider's baggage before... "Watch what you ask for, because you might get it...").

Originally Posted by arcoog

That being said, these girls are like anyone else, they just know how to do it better than most and for me, the pleasure of walking into a party, casino - whatever with a knockout, sexy chick who is making me happy was well worth the time. I would do it again.

Nice to know there are some success stories out there.

Cheers!

bcg

[MacTheKnife]

Originally Posted by charlestudor2005

Picking up a thread stopped by Big C
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To do so, means you are a far braver man than I.

[BIG C]

Well, for the record, I didn't stop that thread, I merely told everyone to get back on topic or I'd have to send Sadie over to punish them for hijacking it .....

[sadie]

Who are the perpetrators Big C? It's a Monday and I'm bored.

Was the original thread topic about whether to give advice to provider? If so, my clients give me advice. I may not take it, but am open to listening without blasting them. (Unless it was something stupid like I should lower my rates. )

And I do think providers and clients can be "friendly" (know the deal and still pay) and "friends" at the same time. I do double duty as therapist and drinking buddy all the time free of charge.

[BIG C]

Originally Posted by sadie

Who are the perpetrators Big C? It's a Monday and I'm bored.

Was the original thread topic about whether to give advice to provider? If so, my clients give me advice. I may not take it, but am open to listening without blasting them. (Unless it was something stupid like I should lower my rates. )

And I do think providers and clients can be "friendly" (know the deal and still pay) and "friends" at the same time. I do double duty as therapist and drinking buddy all the time free of charge.

It was this thread here: http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=37646

It appears as though they started going astray somewhere around post #11 so I had to tell them to stay on topic or I'd send you to punish them.....

Anyway, I suppose it can happen that friendships do develope outside of the business.....For the most part though I think it would behoove most of us to remember that these are basically business relationships and that one shouldn't go into any of these engagements looking for friends.....I think it's best to go into them and treat it as a business and if over the time something developes beyond that, then you both will know it and won't have to wonder about it.....I could actually go on about this, but I think everyone gets my drift here so no need to.....

[Lily Blair]

I definitely have made some friends in the hobby and feel quite close to one or two people. But I've also had people I'd seen just one time several months ago make the mistake of thinking we were more than just that.

I think that whether or not I'd see them for free is beside the point. Considering this is my job, and in real life I don't make myself immediately available to my friends for casual sex, then of course I wouldn't see them for free. I said we were friends, not significant others.

[guest071811-3]

couldn't agree more.. as long as your paying, its obviously business first.. the day that you start getting it free.. you have made it across the line into "friends".. do people do business with friends..all the time..do friends have sex with each other? all the time.. but if you have to CALL, SCHEDULE and PAY in order to hang out with that friend and have SEX.. then your still merely business friends..nothing more, nothing less.. Friends don't have to call, pick 1 hour, show up and make conversation and in the end do what you actually was there to do..with is fuck.. and pay before you leave.. i don't have any "friends" I do that with..friends fuck for free(no smart ass comment about how do you become a friend).. clients pay.. the 2 aren't mixed ... remember part of the "game" is making believe you are friends.. remember more often then not (not everyone everytime)..but more often then not..free drinks, dinner, even long phone conversations discussing "life" are all done with the intent of knowing that one day, because of the "work" put in now..money will be spent..time will be booked and the "game" continues..

ask your "friend" for a freebie..ya ya..i know.. its friends that still understand they have to pay when its time..thus they understand the game.. but hell.. now if you say that it would be awkward to have sex with a friend.. how are the people that pay "friends"? it would be too awkward right.. and it would be awkward to charge your friends.. and people don't have casual sex with their friends, but with the "friends" that pay.. so they are not the same friends.. just people they put up with for business reasons..oh..business relationship..NOT FRIENDS really but thats how we term it to take the bluntness out of the whole deal right?

Originally Posted by BIG C

Anyway, I suppose it can happen that friendships do develope outside of the business.....For the most part though I think it would behoove most of us to remember that these are basically business relationships and that one shouldn't go into any of these engagements looking for friends.....I think it's best to go into them and treat it as a business and if over the time something developes beyond that, then you both will know it and won't have to wonder about it.....I could actually go on about this, but I think everyone gets my drift here so no need to.....

[guest052210-1]

There are no 'freebies' whether you are married, dating a provider or just a gf. It is debatable which is more expensive. My experience is it's more expensive to be married and cheaper to date a provider. JMHO.

[BIG C]

Originally Posted by arcoog

There are no 'freebies' whether you are married, dating a provider or just a gf. It is debatable which is more expensive. My experience is it's more expensive to be married and cheaper to date a provider. JMHO.

Which only restates what I've been saying for the major part of my life since I hit puberty.....There is no such thing as "free pussy" and "The most expensive pussy is free pussy".....If you don't believe me just ask Kobe Bryant.....Kobe got some free pussy one night and it cost him $4m to his wife, and who knows how much else he had to pay to the girl he got the "free pussy" from, and then there were all the million$ from the endorsements that he lost.....Michael Jordan was getting lots of "free pussy" and it eventually cost him $150m - $200m for the divorce settlement (and who knows how much extra he paid in legal fees).....And then there's good ole el Tigre who was getting all that "free pussy" and no one knows just yet how many million$ that it's going to eventually cost him.....

[bluffcityguy]

Originally Posted by arcoog

There are no 'freebies' whether you are married, dating a provider or just a gf. It is debatable which is more expensive. My experience is it's more expensive to be married and cheaper to date a provider. JMHO.

I've seen this used as an avatar on some board, maybe even here. Regardless of where I've seen it, it's a good one. And oh, so true:



Cheers,

bcg

[Guest032112]

Originally Posted by bluffcityguy

I've seen this used as an avatar on some board, maybe even here. Regardless of where I've seen it, it's a good one. And oh, so true:

Yes, bcg, no doubt cheaper. But you gotta admit riding that blonde would be fun!

Hmmmm red car, fast car, good looking blonde, fast women . . . . does that indicate a mid-life crisis of some sort?

[bluffcityguy]

Originally Posted by arklookn4lovn

Yes, bcg, no doubt cheaper. But you gotta admit riding that blonde would be fun!

I will have to try sometime, just for the novelty value. I have to confess that my taste in blondes (and brunettes and redheads) tends to the slightly more zaftig.

Right now it's a moot point; I'm not able to see my favorite zaftig blonde when she visits Memphis Any Minute Now because, like a fool, I had to go lend the equivalent of her fee to a friend about two weeks ago, and the debt ain't going to be repaid that quickly.

No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.

Oh well. The good deed made me feel good, and if my favorite zaftig blonde doesn't understand that...

Cheers,

bcg