7 reasons why Ronald Reagan was the worst President of our lifetime

[WTF]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

There is a surgery called hemispherectomy in which half the brain is removed. The patient is able to fuction at a marginal level with half a brain.

You should ask one of your caregivers if this is what happened to you.

You better never have that surgery, They take out half your brain and you'd be left with nothing plus you'd owe them another 1/4.

Think about that word problem and tell me how much brain power you started with ...

[JD Barleycorn]

I love the fact that you think a poster is proof of something. The Taliban didn't come into existence until 1995. They were the government that ran Afghanistan and not the Mujahideen.

Lets see Buchanan could never get a handle on the slavery issue and tended to runaway for the issue completely. Some of his "promoters" have said that he kept company with another man so he was gay. Of course, men shared quarters in those days to save money.

William Henry Harrison ate some cherries and cream on inaugeration day. He also didn't wear his top coat on the bitter day in March.

Harry Truman said that Polk was one of the better presidents; he said he would do three things. He did them, he left office, and he died shortly thereafter.

Grant failed to enforce Reconstruction and allowed the Klan to develop.

Rutherford Hayes totally capitulated on Reconstruction allowing the very people who started the war to take charge in the South again.

I think of Jimmy Carter as the godfather of modern terrorism with his support for the Ayatollah, Arafat's recognition, and failure to stop the Soviets in Afghanistan.

Another questionable president would be Herbert Hoover. He was a competent man and engineer but he was unable to grasp how government needs to work.

Harding allowed his subordinates to rob the country blind because wanted to be loved.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by WTF

You better never have that surgery, They take out half your brain and you'd be left with nothing plus you'd owe them another 1/4.

Think about that word problem and tell me how much brain power you started with ...

Your response makes no sense. If you understood basic math, you'd know that what you think is a clever comeback is actually moronic.
Debating you is like playing tennis with someone who can't hit the ball over the net. It's an easy victory, but unsatisfying.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

I heard he redecorated the White House and it was FABULOUS!!!

hopefully not in garish pink.

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just for kicks

I'm gonna do a full list top to bottom. you've already have a pretty good idea what my bottom 20 looks like.

only problem is Taft, he served two terms, but not continuously. only president to do that.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

just for kicks

I'm gonna do a full list top to bottom. you've already have a pretty good idea what my bottom 20 looks like.

only problem is Taft, he served two terms, but not continuously. only president to do that.

That was Cleveland, not Taft. BTW, Cleveland built TR's Great White Fleet during a recession keeping thousands of Americans employed. That's an accomplishment often overlooked.

[I B Hankering]

BTW, Cleveland liked his beer.

[joe bloe]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

BTW, Cleveland liked his beer.

Grover Cleveland admitted having an illegitimate son. His opponent tried to use it against him, but he got elected to the presidency in spite of it.

Its funny how not much changes in politics. The one constant is human weakness.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

That was Cleveland, not Taft. BTW, Cleveland built TR's Great White Fleet during a recession keeping thousands of Americans employed. That's an accomplishment often overlooked.

you're right, my bad.

those 2 hated each other, didn't they?

[dilbert firestorm]

a little something from andy rooney on this matter
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4815408.shtml

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/0...residents-ever

CSPAN surveyed 65 presidential historians. The results:

1. Lincoln
2. Washington
3. FD Roosevelt
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Truman
6. Kennedy
7. Jefferson
8. Eisenhower
9. Wilson
10. Reagan
11. LB Johnson
12. Polk
13. Jackson
14. Monroe
15. Clinton
16. McKinley
17. John Adams
18. George HW Bush
19. John Quincy Adams
20. Madison
21. Cleveland
22. Ford
23. Grant
24. Taft
25. Carter
26. Coolidge
27. Nixon
28. Garfield
29. Taylor
30. Harrison
31. Van Buren
32. Arthur
33. Hayes
34. Hoover
35. Tyler
36. George W. Bush
37. Fillmore
38. Harding
39. WH Harrison
40. Pierce
41. A. Johnson
42. Buchanan

Bush avoids the ignominy of being considered the worst president ever by at least this group of historians, but not all's lost. Compared to the last survey nine years ago, Grant has moved up 10 spots and Clinton six. On the other hand, Hayes is down seven, Cleveland four, and Wilson and Carter are down three. The guy who created the largest recession since the Great Depression and two intractable wars has plenty of time to fall to last on the list.

[joe bloe]

Most historians are socialists. I'm not sure what significance I put on their favorites. FDR should be last. These so called historians are probably 99% college professors, a bunch of elitest America haters.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

Most historians are socialists. I'm not sure what significance I put on their favorites. FDR should be last. These so called historians are probably 99% college professors, a bunch of elitest America haters.

yeah, but I just posted it to see what's out there. its also there for purpose of comparison when I put my list out.

[JD Barleycorn]

That list all depends on the criteria they used. Did they judge how sucessfully each president carried out their programs despite how wrong headed they were doing it. Did they judge by how loved each president was. Did they judge by what each president did after they left office or what they contributed.
You say that GW Bush can go lower but in reality he will probably go higher with time. Get used to it.

Wilson is an interesting character. He took the US voluntarily into World War I and had to build a military to fight the war. He campaigned on the fact that he would not go to war with Germany while pushing for laws to eavesdrop on the public's phone calls, mail, and telegrams to get ready for the war he was not going to fight.
Wilson violated the rights of thousands of Americans that he, Justice Palmer, and JE Hoover decided were dangerous radicals. They were followed, recorded (with paper), and publications seized. Those violations followed racial and political lines. Wilson decided that communism was a bad thing (and it's two cousins socialism and anarchism). Wilson was also a racist (he was from Virginia) and segregationist. Wilson brought the first motion picture into the White House, The Birth of a Nation. A homage to the Ku Klux Klan and all the "good" they did.
Ma Bell was created by Wilson when they combined, by government edict, the 10,000 smaller phone and telegraph companies.
Wilson was a very flawed president but he is high on the list.

[CuteOldGuy]

Yeah. I'm sure each of us would have our own list, but this one is really screwed up.