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06-23-2011, 10:58 PM
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Well I don't have an account on that site. I was talking about my account here because I read earlier that Eccie was under a similar investigation. Can anyone confirm this & if they can actually get any sort of conviction just from an IP address?
I love the sharing of information here but if an IP log is all that it takes to get me in trouble then I'm out. :-(
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06-24-2011, 05:43 AM
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06-24-2011, 06:50 AM
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Conquer I don't know what the answer is. The only thing I can figure out from all of this is that they (the owner/moderators) were actually requiring posters of that board to engage in prostitution to gain some type of premium (bcd) access. It also sounds like they referred ladies to gentleman and made arrangements for it. It said in another article that a lady had been working with them to gain access and gain what they needed to make an arrest.
If you are really concerned then pm a moderator your questions.
Edit: The original owner Mary was not arrested for having created/managed/or sold the board, but arrested for harrassing a witness. The moderator who was arrested was not arrested for moderating the forums but for deleting posts/accounts etc. during the investigation (tampering with evidence). If the current owner of the board was not taking money for any of the ladies sessions or profiting from those sessions in some way, he might walk after this is all said and done. But the damage is done already with the media blitz. This is just my humble opinion btw.
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06-24-2011, 08:50 AM
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Links provided demonstrate why she was arrested. It was not indicated she was arrested because she was the original creator/owner, it was indicated only that the original creator/owner was arrested, to clarify beautiful.
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06-24-2011, 09:00 AM
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06-24-2011, 11:53 AM
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I'm no attorney but the TBD case is very similar. Some charges were dismissed due to screw ups by prosecution: http://www.sexwork.com/TBD/tbd.html
The problem the NM SWC Mod is: he is accused of destroying evidence and obstruction of justice, besides the promoting and other stuff. But if there is no case, how could he destroy evidence?
If I were these guys, I would look for the TBD Defense Attorney Luke Lirot.
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06-24-2011, 03:56 PM
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One has to look at the laws.of New Mexico. Most states do not have a promoting prostitution laws because if the difficulty in definition. But apparently NM has such a law. Will be interesting to heqr more as it develops.
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06-26-2011, 03:19 AM
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Well I don't have an account on that site. I was talking about my account here because I read earlier that Eccie was under a similar investigation.
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That would certainly be news to me!
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06-26-2011, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by conquer_it_all
Well I don't have an account on that site. I was talking about my account here because I read earlier that Eccie was under a similar investigation. Can anyone confirm this & if they can actually get any sort of conviction just from an IP address?
I love the sharing of information here but if an IP log is all that it takes to get me in trouble then I'm out. :-(
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Someone mentioned in ths thread that ECCIE was under investigation but never responded to any requests of where that info came from so I doubt that is true.
An IP log can be used to locate a specific location that a computer was used. That by itself is meaningless. They would still have to prove you actualy broke the law.
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06-26-2011, 03:32 PM
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Someone mentioned in ths thread that ECCIE was under investigation but never responded to any requests of where that info came from so I doubt that is true.
An IP log can be used to locate a specific location that a computer was used. That by itself is meaningless. They would still have to prove you actualy broke the law.
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IP address leads to ISP (Internet Service Provider), were your personal data are available to LE only with a court order signed by a judge.
That's a lot of work for thousands of members, and then in each individual case still has to be proven that the fantasy stories posted here or elsewhere contain something else than the fantasies that they are.
Going into the future, I think I will just add a sentence to my fantasy stories (which actually resembles the truth):
"I had a dream last night, and here is what it was all about."
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06-26-2011, 04:52 PM
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IP address leads to ISP (Internet Service Provider), were your personal data are available to LE only with a court order signed by a judge.
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Not necessarily true. Comcast has an emergency disclosure provision (and probably other internet providers do as well):
Emergency Disclosure
18 U.S.C. § 2702(b)(8) and § 2702(c)(4) contain provisions for the expedited release of subscriber information in situations where there is an immediate danger of death or an immediate risk of serious physical injury. Law enforcement agencies need only to adequately complete Comcast’s Emergency Situation Disclosure Request form (Reference Attachment #1) and they will receive accelerated subscriber identification.
As long as the police are willing to pay, Comcast will even record all of your internet activity and emails:
Pen Register / Trap and Trace Device
Title 18 U.S.C. § 3123 provides a mechanism for authorizing and approving the installation and use of a pen register or a trap and trace device pursuant to court order. All orders must be coordinated prior to submission to Comcast. Law enforcement will be asked to agree to reimburse Comcast's reasonable costs incurred to purchase and/or install and monitor necessary equipment. See "Reimbursement," below.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/15667...lice_about_you
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06-27-2011, 01:51 AM
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Not necessarily true. Comcast has an emergency disclosure provision (and probably other internet providers do as well):
Emergency Disclosure
18 U.S.C. § 2702(b)(8) and § 2702(c)(4) contain provisions for the expedited release of subscriber information in situations where there is an immediate danger of death or an immediate risk of serious physical injury. Law enforcement agencies need only to adequately complete Comcast’s Emergency Situation Disclosure Request form (Reference Attachment #1) and they will receive accelerated subscriber identification.
As long as the police are willing to pay, Comcast will even record all of your internet activity and emails:
Pen Register / Trap and Trace Device
Title 18 U.S.C. § 3123 provides a mechanism for authorizing and approving the installation and use of a pen register or a trap and trace device pursuant to court order. All orders must be coordinated prior to submission to Comcast. Law enforcement will be asked to agree to reimburse Comcast's reasonable costs incurred to purchase and/or install and monitor necessary equipment. See "Reimbursement," below.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/15667...lice_about_you
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Thank you for that bit of information, I was not aware of that. I'm also glad to know that Comcast covers their financial ass, even down to this level.
At least it is only applicable for situations of "immediate danger of death or an immediate risk of serious physical injury." I don't see how that clause could apply to the current situation at least.
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06-27-2011, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by waverunner234
Going into the future, I think I will just add a sentence to my fantasy stories (which actually resembles the truth):
"I had a dream last night, and here is what it was all about."
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Oh no Wave...not the whole "dream" thing over here too! That does as much good as those meaningless disclaimers so many ladies put in their ads.
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06-27-2011, 12:02 PM
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Thank you for that bit of information, I was not aware of that. I'm also glad to know that Comcast covers their financial ass, even down to this level.
At least it is only applicable for situations of "immediate danger of death or an immediate risk of serious physical injury." I don't see how that clause could apply to the current situation at least.
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The posting of vice officers pictures, names, cell phone #s, cars, etc. could easily be construed as a threat to the safety of those officers, especially if they were involved in under cover work.
I think that is what did in the good professor.
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06-27-2011, 01:20 PM
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What did the good professor in was placing trust in the the wrong lady, who when given the chance to save her ass from her own problems, helped set him up. BTW she just posted a new BP ad in ABQ yesterday, with a new name of course.
His second mistake was then entering the city limits, and the rest is now history.
Great Avatar BTW!
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