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03-26-2024, 09:21 PM
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It's been ruled an accident. Boat reported problems and police were able to shut down bridge. No grass knoll conspiracy to it. Rebuild it better and move on.
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03-26-2024, 10:36 PM
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It's been ruled an accident.
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LOL after what, a whole couple hour "investigation". Please
I have no idea if foul play or not was involved but anyone claiming it was an accident with no real investigation doesn't want to know the truth
By the way, hell of a job by another of Senile Biden's unqualified hires - Butt-Plug-Pete
Train derailments
Supply chain crisis
Planes falling apart in the sky
Ships crashing into bridges
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03-26-2024, 10:45 PM
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... Well, I heard President Biden's comments.
He's gonna REPAIR the bridge and have the Government pay the costs.
And he also vowed to stay until the job is completed!
.... Crikey! ... Hope THAT goes better than Afghanistan.
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03-26-2024, 10:52 PM
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LOL after what, a whole couple hour "investigation". Please
I have idea if foul play or not was involved but anyone claiming it was an accident with no real investigation doesn't want to know the truth
By the way, hell of a job by another of Senile Biden's unqualified hires - Butt-Plug-Pete
Train derailments
Supply chain crisis
Planes falling apart in the sky
Ships crashing into bridges
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That's all the time that's needed to see this was from power loss. That's it.
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03-26-2024, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
That's all the time that's needed to see this was from power loss. That's it.
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And just why was there this supposed power loss?
As I said, anyone claiming it was an accident with no real investigation doesn't want to know the truth
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03-26-2024, 11:07 PM
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Omg
Things happen
I'm surprised these things don't happen more often.
Investigators who claim it was an accident know more than you are I. They've reported its an accident.
Everyone who watches the videos can tell that.
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03-26-2024, 11:08 PM
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No foul play here
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03-27-2024, 05:24 AM
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Lara Logan on Baltimore Bridge Collapse
Multiple intel sources: Baltimore bridge collapse was an “absolutely brilliant strategic attack” on US critical infrastructure - most likely cyber - & our intel agencies know it. In information warfare terms, they just divided the US along the Mason Dixon line exactly like the Civil War.
Second busiest strategic roadway in the nation for hazardous material now down for 4-5 years - which is how long they say it will take to recover. Bridge was built specifically to move hazardous material - fuel, diesel, propane gas, nitrogen, highly flammable materials, chemicals and oversized cargo that cannot fit in the tunnels - that supply chain now crippled.
Make no mistake: this was an extraordinary attack in terms of planning, timing & execution.
The two critical components on that bridge are the two load-bearing pylons on each end, closest to the shore. They are bigger, thicker and deeper than anything else. These are the anchor points and they knew that hitting either one one of them would be a fatal wound to the integrity of the bridge.
Half a mile of bridge went in the river - likely you will have to build a new one. Also caused so much damage to the structural integrity of the bottom concrete part that you cannot see & won’t know until they take the wreckage apart. Structural destruction likely absolute.
Attack perfectly targeted.
“They have figured out how to bring us down. As long as you stay away from the teeth of the US military, you can pick the US apart. We are arrogant and ignorant - lethal combination. Obama said they would fundamentally change America and they did. We are in a free-fall ride on a roller coaster right now - no brakes - just picking up speed.”
The footage shows the cargo ship never got in the approach lane in the channel. You have to be in the channel before you get into that turn. Location was precise/deliberate: chose a bend in the river where you have to slow down and commit yourself - once you are committed in that area there is not enough room to maneuver.
Should have had a harbor pilot to pilot the boat. You are not supposed to traverse any obstacles without the harbor pilot.
They chose a full moon so they would have maximum tidal shift - rise and fall. Brisk flow in that river on a normal day & have had a lot of rain recently so water was already moving along at a good pace.
Hit it with enough kinetic energy to knock the load-bearing pylon out from under the highway - which fatally weakens the span and then 50 percent of the bridge fell into the water.
All these factors when you look at it - this is how you teach people how to do this type of attack and there are so few people left in the system who know this. We have a Junior varsity team on the field.
Tremendous navigational obstruction. Huge logistical nightmare to clean this up. Number of dead is tragic but not the whole measure of the attack.
That kind-of bridge constantly under repair - always at night because there is so much traffic and they cannot obstruct that during the day. So concern is for repair guys who were on foot (out of their vehicles) working who may now be in the water - 48 degrees at most at this time of year.
When you choke off Baltimore you have cut the main north-south hazardous corridor (I95) in half. Now has to go around the city - or go somewhere else.
To move some of that cargo through the tunnel you may be able to get a permit but those are slow to get and require an escort system that is expensive and has to be done at night.
For every $100 dollars that goes into the city, $12 comes from shipping. Believe this will cripple the city of Baltimore at a time when they do not have the resources to recover.
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03-27-2024, 05:28 AM
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Why is the Federal government paying for the rebuilding of the collapsed Baltimore bridge, as Biden stated today and not the insurance company of the ship?? Another fishy thing among many about this.
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03-27-2024, 05:45 AM
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https://t.me/BoldSpearElmerFudd/162293
The pilot of the ship is from Ukraine!!!!! You can’t make this shit up!!!!!
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03-27-2024, 08:45 AM
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I don't believe this is what you're suggesting it is BAM.
Why is everything a conspiracy to you guys on the right? Perhaps it was bad luck, bad timing, or bad intentions. We'll have to find out for certain.
Relative to the ship itself- I have seen larger vessels with diesel generators and hydraulic controls to the steering and propulsion are very vulnerable when they run into electrical system failures. I'd also imagine that this type of ship would have a backup generator running also- especially during port entries.
To that point, I'd say there is some investigation that needs to happen to see what the fuck DID happen- but it seems very premature to start suggesting it's a conspiracy to change some narrative or control some systems. That' said- I'm not one to completely rule out that it COULD have some bad actors on board, and those ppl should be detained in the USA till a full accounting of actions and activities on board are concluded by the NTSB.
Clearly this will have a HUGE impact on the locals in MD, and those who need to get materials in and out of the port. I Know a large amount of cars and farm equipment go in and out of this port along with sugar and some other commodities. The port workers and other will have a vacation and loss of income during this period, but they are union folks who atleast have some protections of income- but those who do the non-union labor there to support those ports will feel it for the 4-6 months it will take to clear out the wreckage and start to rebuild. HOpefully they can clear it out within the next 3 months or sooner, but that's a pretty big amount of materials to chop up fast.
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03-27-2024, 08:59 AM
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No biggie here. Rebuild the bridge.
Many other ports will pick up the slack. There are other bridges in close proximity for auto traffic.
This bridge was not a target. Besides the wreckage can be removed in a short time and the port can reopen.
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03-27-2024, 09:32 AM
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As I said, anyone claiming it was an accident with no real investigation doesn't want to know the truth
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So you would agree anyone claiming it’s a conspiracy with no real investigation doesn’t want the truth either. Correct?
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03-27-2024, 11:16 AM
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Everything is a fucking conspiracy with certain types of people these days. Can't find your car keys? Blame DEI! Lol. Pathetic.
It's been ruled an accident by people who were, you know, there at the scene and actually, you know, witnessed everything.
The fact that Fox News bobbleheads are willing to blame everything on "open borders" and "diversity" just shows what racist pieces of shit they are. Fuck Maria Bartiromo and everything she represents.
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