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01-08-2019, 04:55 PM
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Luxurious Nicole
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Curious About Companionship on Cruise Ships...Is this a Demand?
I go on several curises a year with my family&friends and I haven't tried hosting before...
I usually always play it safe but didn't know if there was a demand for this kind of entertainment/companionship onboard?
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01-08-2019, 06:34 PM
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I've been wondering the same thing!
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01-08-2019, 11:34 PM
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Haute Chocolate
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I've accompanied gentlemen on cruise ships, but I've never received any inquiries from men who were coincidentally on the same cruise as I was, lol.
~Mme X~
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01-09-2019, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: Aug 5, 2010
Location: Houston Area
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Cruse Hobbying has been an intrequing thought for me for a while. Seems like a good idea as long as I let the small head lead the wqay.
But when looking at the nuts and bolts of it . . .how it would really work, the concept becomes less appealing to me as a hobbyist.
Please do not quibble over my math here, its a really rough estimate.
Top negative is the huge donation for even a short cruse. The cruse itself will be what ever it would be for a couple. On top of that is the Provider's donation for several days. At a deep rate discount of $100/hr, each day is another $2400. I am guessing that $100/hr is a low estimate. That roughly equals the cruse tickets (for the whole cruse). Next would be airfare to and from the cruse terminal . . .OK, "Sky-High" is a pun. Any excursions, or will we play and romp while we are in port? And then incidentals; meals suvineres etc. What about gamboling? Whose money?
Enough of sounding like a cheapskate (I kinda am). Lets say I have won a lottery of some significant but not egregious amount, and I can blow several tens of thousands of dollars. So there we are at sea for four days. I have character flaws and idiosyncrasies that drive my family crazy. And there we are for four days. Professional escort psychology skills aside; can you put up with me for four days . . .and can I put up with you? I am talking personnel habits and personality stuff. I assume the sex is potentially great.
Thinking it over, bringing an escort with me on a cruse seems less attractive.
Has anyone ever done this? How did it work? What was it like?
Madem-X?
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01-09-2019, 01:05 PM
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OK, that ^ was the Traveling Escort scenario. What about finding a P-F-P bed partner in the ship's crew? I'll bet it has happened,n but I'm damed if I could figure out how to get it done.
First off most crew members speak little English, so a direct approach may not work. Maybe approaching the Purser or Cruse Director as an intermediary (pinp) would work.
In my fantasy, I arrange with the Cruse Director to just send up some compliant young lady every night for a couple of hours, and pay him ahead of time . That's the little head talking.
Has anyone ever done something like that? How did you make it work?
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01-09-2019, 01:37 PM
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I have done exactly what ICU 812 has suggested and have found some luck.
The Bottom floor of the ship is cabins for crew members of the ship. One day while on ship I was board and and wanted to explore the ship. I ended up on the bottom floor and stuck up a conversation with a nice young women who was staff on the ship. Her native language was Russian, but we were able to use Google translate. She even gave me the ships wifi password so I could use instead of paying for the daily service.
Our conversation started as questions, about the ship, and then I flat asked her if she wanted to earn $150 for an hour of work. Staff members don't get paid much as most ships are based international.
We communicated via Google Translate and she was not interested, but said her roommate does hobby with passengers on the ship.
She put me in contact with her roommate and we had a lot of fun.
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01-09-2019, 08:09 PM
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The problem is there are very few single guys, so even if you troll the casino or bars, you are unlikely to get lucky. Secondly, even if there were a decent number of single guys, it would be hard to connect with ones who were interested in hooking up.
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01-09-2019, 09:05 PM
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I was thinking that the walls between rooms in a ship probably transmit sound and vibrations more than the walls between rooms in a building ... which could be a positive if you think about it, give the passengers and crew something to talk about.
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01-10-2019, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by B Three
The problem is there are very few single guys, so even if you troll the casino or bars, you are unlikely to get lucky. Secondly, even if there were a decent number of single guys, it would be hard to connect with ones who were interested in hooking up.
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Right.
And, outside of crew, very few single women passengers. A fantasy scenario might be a Bachelorette Party cruse!
I have not looked for this . . .are there "Singles Cruses" or cruses advertised as 'for adults only" ?
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01-10-2019, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ICU 812
Top negative is the huge donation for even a short cruse. The cruse itself will be what ever it would be for a couple. On top of that is the Provider's donation for several days. At a deep rate discount of $100/hr, each day is another $2400. I am guessing that $100/hr is a low estimate. That roughly equals the cruse tickets (for the whole cruse). Next would be airfare to and from the cruse terminal . . .OK, "Sky-High" is a pun. Any excursions, or will we play and romp while we are in port? And then incidentals; meals suvineres etc. What about gamboling? Whose money?
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I have done a cruise with a lady on occasion, but the math has always been very different than this.
First, I would never do this with a lady I did not know well. A week is a LOOOOOONG time to be in confined close quarters with someone you have no chemistry with. Even if you wind up having active erotic entertainment for three or four hours a day for seven straight days, that still leaves almost 150 additional hours that can be hell if you do not know you enjoy each other's company on multiple levels.
For the two most recent cruises (two different ladies), I paid all the expenses: cruise itself, meals, excursions, getting to/from the port city, etc. In both situations I knew enough about her interests and wish lists that the cruise was picked out because it was one she wanted to go on. In both cases I put the question to her: "If I pay for everything on the trip to XXX, what would it cost to have you accompany me?"
The first lady quoted me a price equal to her overnight rate for one night. In second lady (two weeks to and around Alaska) she said the trip would be payment enough.
I have found that once there is an established friendship, "out of the ordinary" situations are best discussed with an open mind, and details can be very flexible. And of course, there should be NO review or mention of the lady's name since these kinds of services are completely YMMV at her prerogative.
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01-10-2019, 11:00 AM
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The prudent way a lady would price herself is to charge exactly what she would miss making at home. And yes, this only works with someone you know you really like.
And even then, the gentleman needs to be respectful of her time and make sure she has some alone time where she can do as she likes (sun bathe alone, spa, read, etc.).
I’ve done this many times and it works great for me. I have fun with someone I like. I am not punished for it regarding my income and bills, etc. and the guys doesn’t feel taken advantage of financially.
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01-10-2019, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by B Three
The prudent way a lady would price herself is to charge exactly what she would miss making at home. And yes, this only works with someone you know you really like.
And even then, the gentleman needs to be respectful of her time and make sure she has some alone time where she can do as she likes (sun bathe alone, spa, read, etc.).
I’ve done this many times and it works great for me. I have fun with someone I like. I am not punished for it regarding my income and bills, etc. and the guys doesn’t feel taken advantage of financially.
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Agree with most of what you say. I certainly agree with being respectful of her time.
As far as the "charge exactly what she would miss making at home", that depends upon how you compute what that would be. The lady (someone who has never lived appointment to appointment and does this work as a secondary income) I took to Alaska explained it this way to me:
--She enjoys taking vacations when she can. If she worked one week, and too a week's vacation to Jamaica for a week (her typical vacation), the vacation would cost about what she made the week working, so a net of about $0 for the two week period.
--If she took up my offer--which fortunately for me she did--the net for the two weeks would be about the same, $0. But she would have gotten two weeks of vacation instead of one, and would go somewhere she valued far more than another trip to Jamaica.
One of the conditions was that I selected dates that fit with when she was going to take her next trip anyway, something I was glad to do.
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01-10-2019, 11:46 AM
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Then we aren’t disagreeing at all. If she would’ve chosen to take that week as a vacation, she would not have made money. It doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with how much money she has in the bank. Regardless of how much she likes you or how good she is, this is her job.
In real life when my job sends me to Hawaii for a conference that is 90% fun and 10% work, they don’t tell me I’m not getting my salary that week. I’m getting the exact same as I would at my office.
Now, if you are blessed to have a hobby friend who wants to go on a vacation with you as a friend and not charge, you great! Happy for the both of you. I’ve done that one, too. But getting a nice free vacation is not the same as being compensated for you time, unless she was planning on going on the exact same trip, and paying for it herself and you stepped in and offered to cover her cost in exchange for you accompanying her.
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01-10-2019, 01:17 PM
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I never thought we were in significant disagreement, just discussing the topic.
I see it slightly different, but only slightly. I think we are talking about a choice that is part financial but also part subjective--in essence both sides, but in this case we are primarily talking about the lady, need to assess whether the (time spent on vacation + what she makes financially during the vacation) is preferable to (whatever else she does with that time + what she makes with that time).
It is the same choice we make when we decide to pull an overtime shift, add one more project, or see one more client. It is the same decision process when I decide to retire or work another year.
Where I differ with what you said is on a lady's bank account--i think it does affect her decision. I have found that a lady who is financially better off is more likely to decide that she prefers an hour off the clock at dinner that one who is concerned about paying her rent the next day--or independent of money, the one who would rather go home and play with her child before bedtime.
The second lady is neither better nor worse than the first, nor is she "worth less", but at that moment in her life has different priorities.
Which again is why I am loath to make assumptions about what a lady values, and rather ask her--she can then do the mental comparison however she chooses. There are many right answers depending upon her situation.
By the way, thank you for a thoughtful conversation on this.
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01-10-2019, 01:18 PM
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I never thought we were in significant disagreement, just discussing the topic.
I see it slightly different, but only slightly. I think we are talking about a choice that is part financial but also part subjective--in essence both sides, but in this case we are primarily talking about the lady, need to assess whether the (time spent on vacation + what she makes financially during the vacation) is preferable to (whatever else she does with that time + what she makes with that time).
It is the same choice we make when we decide to pull an overtime shift, add one more project, or see one more client. It is the same decision process when I decide to retire or work another year.
Where I differ with what you said is on a lady's bank account--i think it does affect her decision. I have found that a lady who is financially better off is more likely to decide that she prefers an hour off the clock at dinner than one who is concerned about paying her rent the next day--or independent of money, the one who would rather go home and play with her child before bedtime.
The second lady is neither better nor worse than the first, nor is she "worth less", but at that moment in her life has different priorities.
Which again is why I am loath to make assumptions about what a lady values, and rather ask her--she can then do the mental comparison however she chooses. There are many right answers depending upon her situation.
By the way, thank you for a thoughtful conversation on this.
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