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08-13-2017, 12:25 PM
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There were at least two groups out there, 1-1800-JCM-DATO. One group had a permit to demonstrate, and the other one didn't, 1-1800-JCM-DATO.
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Does that somehow justify the end result?
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08-13-2017, 12:28 PM
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When a "conservative" protest results in a car plowing through the opposition I would think that explains what's wrong with it.
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The guy who did it has psychological problems. He's on meds. Just like the guy who shot at Republicans was crazy. There are crazies on both sides.
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08-13-2017, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bambino
The guy who did it has psychological problems. He's on meds. Just like the guy who shot at Republicans was crazy. There are crazies on both sides.
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Agreed.
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08-13-2017, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JCM800
When a "conservative" protest results in a car plowing through the opposition I would think that explains what's wrong with it.
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So if someone dies ...
.... then it's the fault of the ""conservative" protest"?
I suspect most of them were breast fed ... both sides ...
... end breast feeding ... someone was struck by a car!
You're an ambassador of what? (That's a rhetorical question"!)
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US District Court Judge Glen Conrad agreed, ruling on Friday “that Kessler has shown that he will likely prove that the decision to revoke his permit was based on the content of his speech.”
“Kessler’s assertion in this regard is supported by the fact that the city solely revoked his permit but left in place the permits issued to counter-protestors,” Conrad added. The ruling allowed the protests to continue.
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08-13-2017, 12:33 PM
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Does that somehow justify the end result?
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Is the suppression of free speech justified by the actions of a lunatic who drove a car into a crowd of people (after he had crashed into the rear of a stopped vehicle [almost sounds like he was intoxicated/impaired])?
You probably should not answer that to retain any credibility.
The latest information about the driver do not associate him with either group. It appears that is and will be the focus of an investigation by the DOJ as ordered by Sessions, which is to determine whether he focused on a group of people "because of their beliefs" ..
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08-13-2017, 12:40 PM
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Does that somehow justify the end result?
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You're the idiot trying to paint with crayons, 1-800-JCM-DATO. The actions of one troubled individual does not justify your ilks' attacking and denying the 1st Amendment Rights of any group of citizens, 1-800-JCM-DATO.
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08-13-2017, 12:41 PM
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Just a normal Saturday afternoon for Trump voters.
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There you go... let's be honest, JCM. You don't really give a fuck about the victims. In fact, you RELISH this opportunity to seize the moral high ground. I mean, how often do you get to smear 63 million Trump voters with guilt by association? They're all nazis, klansmen, white supremacists, hatemongers... every last one of them!
Deep down you know this Charlottesville tragedy is a gift! To paraphrase Rahm Emmanuel, "never let a good tragedy go to waste!" You libtards looked pretty stupid when you jumped the gun immediately after the 2011 Gabby Giffords shooting, only to learn the perp was a batshit crazy schizoid rather than the right-wing wacko activist you were fervently hoping for. But hey, this time you hit the jackpot, right?
James Alex Fields - let's make him the POSTER BOY for 63 million Trump voters!
James Hodgkinson - shhhhh! Did he work for Bernie Sanders? hush, hush! Nobody in the campaign even remembers that loser!
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08-13-2017, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
There you go... let's be honest, JCM. You don't really give a fuck about the victims. In fact, you RELISH this opportunity to seize the moral high ground. I mean, how often do you get to smear 63 million Trump voters with guilt by association? They're all nazis, klansmen, white supremacists, hatemongers... every last one of them!
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HIS infection is surfacing.
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08-13-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
Is the suppression of free speech justified by the actions of lunatic who drove a car into a crowd of people?
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You really think the guy who drove into the crowd did it because of free speech suppression?
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08-13-2017, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
What a dumbass post! Have you told the ACLU they are "justifying hate" whenever they defend the First Amendment? Only a moron would equate the two.
What you libtards can't get through your impenetrably thick skulls is how your readiness, indeed your eagerness, to dispense with the Constitution for people you disagree with will inevitably boomerang on you if you succeed. The rights you seek to take away from other Americans will, in turn, be denied to yourselves.
Where was your outrage when Madonna told a hate rally she often dreamed of blowing up the White House? Or was she merely exercising her free speech rights?
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. . . fighting words are unprotected because they convey a message of “imminent violence,” and this “message . . . is at its ugliest when directed against groups that have long been the targets of discrimination.”
Just words? There is no such thing as "if."
http://blogs.kentlaw.iit.edu/iscotus...jurisprudence/
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08-13-2017, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
There you go... let's be honest, JCM. You don't really give a fuck about the victims. In fact, you RELISH this opportunity to seize the moral high ground. I mean, how often do you get to smear 63 million Trump voters with guilt by association? They're all nazis, klansmen, white supremacists, hatemongers... every last one of them!
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So the alt-right rally wasn't Trump supporters? ....really?
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08-13-2017, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JCM800
So the alt-right rally wasn't Trump supporters? ....really?
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Of course they were Trump supporters....
Is anybody in this forum ignorant of that fact?
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08-13-2017, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JCM800
So the alt-right rally wasn't Trump supporters? ....really?
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Was James Hodgkinson's shooting spree "just a normal morning for Bernie Sanders voters"?
Do you even know how to debate? Look up inductive fallacy. Here's another example:
1. Bill Clinton is a sexual predator.
2. Bill Clinton is also a Democrat.
3. Ergo, all Democrats are sexual predators.
You won't find me making an absurd argument like that, except in jest. Get it now?
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08-13-2017, 01:14 PM
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Join Date: Sep 23, 2012
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Was James Hodkinson's shooting spree "just a normal morning for Bernie Sanders voters"?
Do you even know how to debate? Look up inductive fallacy. Here's another example:
1. Bill Clinton is a sexual predator.
2. Bill Clinton is also a Democrat.
3. Ergo, all Democrats are sexual predators.
You won't find me making an absurd argument like that, except in jest. Get it now?
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What exactly does any of that have to do with the Charlottesville event?
Is deflecting the topic what you consider to be good debating?
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08-13-2017, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
You're the idiot trying to paint with crayons, 1-800-JCM-DATO. The actions of one troubled individual does not justify your ilks' attacking and denying the 1st Amendment Rights of any group of citizens, 1-800-JCM-DATO.
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So that statue is more important than a persons life?
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