Reviewing the Reviewer....

[yogi692]

Ok I did not read this whole thread but I will say that a "white list" or some king of star system would be alright with me. that could help with being verified, we are all on here and we know the girls talk, so why not have your handle get a good or bad recommendation. we do it to the gals, turn about is fair play in my opinion, might keep some of the bad apples out of the system?

[backdoordave]

Originally Posted by bigryan222

I have to say you made a bit of a ridiculous jump to not respecting ladies. They have the right to refuse service to anyone and they should if a guy is disrespectful or unprepared hygiene wise or for any other reason they see fit. No one said what you said guys think.

Getting feedback from girls is one thing, but nothing good will come from actual reviews of customers. I don't need to see actual evidence of an escorts encounters other than my own. This is still a hobby of discression. Most reviews would be fluff anyways. Reviewing customers is just plain stupid in general too.

Girls communicating in the background to stay safe and drama free is great. Girls communicating publicly about clients is just a terrible plan.

I never said anything about not respecting ladies and I know that they have the right to refuse service to anyone they deem unfit to sully their bed. What I meant to say and what I should have said was that from the "tone" of all the conversations going on in this thread it seems that a lot of the male members are worried about (1) a provider giving out some of their personal information in a public domain where either the police or their wife will find it or (2) they do not care what the providers think about them.

I spent a long time last week talking with one of the top providers in this area about this very topic and her thought was that it would be helpful in screening potential clients. If the ladies were able to write reviews or have some type of system (I personally think the star system maybe in our profile would be fast and easy) where they could check a potential customer would be quick and easy. She said that a lot of the time other providers do not remember clients from several weeks or months ago and that will usually give either a yes recommendation or I cannot remember. If there was a system like a star system that providers could look at on our profile (you would have to give them your handle) she could see who had verified you and make the process of seeing a new provider a lot easier and safer for everyone.

I apologize for going off on a rant, but I want everyone to play safe and be secure in who they choose to see.

bigryan222 I fail to see what the difference is between you writing a review about how a provider performed for you and her writing a review about how you performed for her. Sounds like you might be nervous. LOL In my earlier statement I said pm's were a great way to relay this information to me.

BDD

[MsElena]

Originally Posted by backdoordave

bigryan222 I fail to see what the difference is between you writing a review about how a provider performed for you and her writing a review about how you performed for her. Sounds like you might be nervous. LOL In my earlier statement I said pm's were a great way to relay this information to me.

BDD

The difference is that as a provider, we're not paid to leave.....we're paid to keep our mouths shut. Ever heard of discretion?

[algrace]

I don't doubt that there are hobbyists that have a true desire to be great lovers. I agree with the opinion that greater overall satisfaction during our shared time together occurs as a result of mutual pleasure. There are also hobbyists that aren't there to perform for her whatsoever. The hobbyist may believe his 'performance' is making timely contact, being accurate and discrete with the donation, and especially honoring the providers comfort level with activities. He isn't getting paid for his time. That doesn't mean he should be disrespectful or uncleanly.
A rating system can improve from the OKs given through P411. Depending solely upon P411 OKs or the presence of reviews posted by a hobbyist is not the safest or best method of screening. Providers have the opportunity to turn down or postpone appointment requests for any reason, the most valid of which is screening. Personal details about the hobbyist should be held in strict confidence not out in a review thread. There are backdoor channels for additional information to be shared among the providers. Feedback can be freely sought by the provider needing/wanting it.

[Kshunter]

Originally Posted by MsElena

The difference is that as a provider, we're not paid to leave.....we're paid to keep our mouths shut. Ever heard of discretion?

Elena gets it. Personally I think the guys who want to be 'reviewed' are so pussywhipped that they're looking for validation here - because they don't get it anywhere else.

[malwoody]

Originally Posted by Kshunter

Elena gets it. Personally I think the guys who want to be 'reviewed' are so pussywhipped that they're looking for validation here - because they don't get it anywhere else.

It's really ironic and humorous when you stop and consider that someone who pays for play time would think he could get validation from anyone other than himself..

I mean if she agrees to see you again..I would think that would be validation enough....LOL

[backdoordave]

I surrender!!!This is turning into something more than I intended when I made my comments. I have three final thoughts on this subject (1) I have never needed validation from any person other than myself (2) from some of the pm's and things posted here I find it mind boggling that so many of the hobbyist and even some of the providers see themselves as whores. I have never treated anyone like that no matter what he or she was doing. (3) If you really are only interested in finding somewhere to stick your dick why not stay home and jackoff. It would be much cheaper and safer. I prefer to see providers who I have chemistry with so its more like a girlfriend than a business transaction. I get enough of that with my own companies.

BDD

[CaptainKaos]

Give me a break. So many of you Sir Lancelot holier than thou types need to jump out of the hobby and hang out on Plenty of Fish.

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

It is simple. Providers DO review in our own way. That is essentially what the reference system is.

The information that hobbyist and provider feel is important in our decision making process is simply different. Hobbyists want to know if a provider's pictures are real and accurate, menu and price, skills, attitude, etc. Information that will let them know if they will have a good time, and make sure they don't wind up wearing silver bracelets.

As a provider, it really isn't a priority to know if the gentleman that I am about to see is the world's greatest DATY specialist. That would be a bonus of course, but I'm interested in knowing if the gent is reliable, does he have a tendency to camp out, is he respectful, does he have hygiene issues, any hint of abusiveness or violence, and of course make sure he isn't LE.

I don't need a review to find out the above information. A simple reference will suffice, which is why references are basically our form of reviews.

The idea of writing a review in a similar format to the reviews that men write would be the height of indiscretion. Not only that, but if women routinely wrote reviews, and men knew that we wrote reviews, it would completely change the dynamic of an appointment. Imagine getting ready to see a lady who has written half a dozen reviews. Of those reviews, three were very positive ("Oh my GAWD he was sooooo huge!!!!"), and the other three were, well, not so nice ("I think he thought my clit was possessed, he couldn't get within 10 feet of it"). How would that affect your mindset? Can you say performance anxiety? LOL. No, the point of this hobby is to make sure the guy has a fantastic time. I love a good orgasm as much as the next lady, but this IS also a business. If I don't get off, its ok because that isn't what I'm being paid to do.

Let the guys write the reviews. Let the ladies continue to provide references. Both systems work as intended, and provide the pertinent information necessary to keep our little hobby world going round.

[CaptainKaos]

Sugar, I could agree with you more.

[Wizard of Ahhhhs]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

Let the guys write the reviews. Let the ladies continue to provide references. Both systems work as intended, and provide the pertinent information necessary to keep our little hobby world going round.

Sounds good enough for me, Sins! Deal!

[bigryan222]

Originally Posted by backdoordave

bigryan222 I fail to see what the difference is between you writing a review about how a provider performed for you and her writing a review about how you performed for her. Sounds like you might be nervous. LOL In my earlier statement I said pm's were a great way to relay this information to me.

BDD

I will make it simple. The provider is providing a service. The reviews are for the service provided. If the girls start to donate to me they can review me all they want. How are you not capable of seeing this difference? Im not being a dick, but it is so obvious that it has to be put very blunt apparently.

If you want feedback that is fine. An actual review from a provider is just plain stupid. As for me being reviewed, the biggest complaint from the girls on me would be that my cock is too big. That is not a joke. Im a nice guy, I treat girls with respect, I always take a shower within 30 minutes of the appointment. I will tell you that I don't care if I give them an orgasm, because they are providing me a service. There are girls that make me care more, but if I am treating them with respect, meeting all of the requested guidelines for the girl (donation, grooming,....) I have done everything I need to do. I do more for girls I like. I do more for girls that I don't click with. But I have done everything to meet my end of the obligation.

The girls are communicating what they need to to stay safe. This is not a dating site. That is all they need to do and I would not see a girl who I thought was sharing more information than was needed.

[Guest013121]

Originally Posted by MsElena

The difference is that as a provider, we're not paid to leave.....we're paid to keep our mouths shut. Ever heard of discretion?

I'm not paid to leave or shut up. In fact, I get paid more to stay longer and conversate more.

[bigcockpussylicker]

Originally Posted by Bubba

I'm not trying to be mean or harsh but when it is all said and done, reviews are about the services provided. When was the last time you were publically reviewed by a restaurant or clothing store?

Maybe I'm old fashion but I have always believed it is the customer that does the reviewing. Even though I have never, ever had a problem with a lady I've had the pleasure of visiting I would not see someone that did a review of any of their clients. The only exception would be if the guy agreed to being reviewed. Fortunately I don't think that will be allowed on this site anytime soon.

WELL SAID!

[bigcockpussylicker]

Originally Posted by nthomasfun

I don't post a lot of reviews, but this thread makes me think I might post a self-review in the comments under any future reviews, either with PM input from the provider or not. Frankly though, I know how every self-review would go. "Terrible in the sack, but otherwise very friendly. Also, definitely overweight, but not smelly."

I figure none of you actually know me, but if you can't be honest with total strangers, who can you be honest with?

that's risky
total strangers can cause you harm
Isnt that why you are polite to someone if they bump into you at the store/gym? You have no idea who is carrying a gun or who will do what to you if you just give'em a reason.
Sure, review guys, what guy is going to pay to see you and risk a bad review?