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Old 09-28-2013, 10:58 PM   #1
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Default What do providers consider a fetish?

So, I've had a few private conversations about fetishes and it got me thinking what a Provider considers a fetish.

According to dictionary.com a fetish is: any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion.

So, ladies and gents I pose a question to you all, mainly to the ladies, what do YOU consider a fetish?

I ask this for selfish reasons- I have a "devotion," to women with large breasts. As such, one of my FAV activities is breast worship followed by titty-fucking. Is that considered a fetish? If so, then I guess I need to peruse the menu's of "fetish friendly," providers... you wouldn't think that such a simple action would be a fetish. I've been with providers who have not removed their lingerie and allowed me to partake in this fantasy/fetish with nothing else occurring (no FS or Oral); however, I find it curious that I pay $200 or more for that kind of "simple," activity.

I look forward to your thoughts
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:39 AM   #2
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The answers as what providers define as fetish will definitely vary, depending on whether you are talking about ECCIE ladies or BP ladies.

I find the dictionary dot com definition to be totally inadequate, however.

According to most textbooks in psychology, human development or human sexuality, the following definition is more accurate. In general, fetishism is sexual attraction to objects, situations, or body parts that are not traditionally viewed as sexual.

"Fetishism is characterized as a pathological assignment of sexual fixation, fantasies or behaviors toward an inanimate object ( frequently an item of clothing -- such as underclothing or a high-heeled shoe) or to nongenital body parts ( such as the foot, legs or hair)."

The foot fetish is the most common fetish in America. Shoe fetish is pretty high on the list as well.

Breast “worship” may indeed fall into the "fetish" category, as it is a non-genital region. However breast play, in itself is not considered a fetish. It really depends on the level of fixation/fantasies/behaviors.


I don’t know of any providers that charge extra for breast play. They either offer “russian” and/or COT or not.

With the inanimate objects, fetishes fall into two categories: 1) The shape or form (shoes or bras as examples) 2) the material (leather, rubber or silk as examples)

Most fetishists are male.

For many, fetishists cannot achieve erection or orgasm without the object/situation or body part being present and in proper “order”. As an example, a foot fetishist may not be able to get an erection with the most beautiful of providers if she is wearing shoes and socks. He may not be able to get an erection through a BBBJ or HJ, but will with a “foot job”. The shoe fetishist may not be able to get an erection if the lady is not wearing the right shoes or the right shoes are not being held, licked, fondled etc, by the man or the lady.

Some situations as fetishes include rape scenarios, incest scenario, being treated like a baby, etc.

Cross dressing and the use of sex toys are not considered fetishes.

Having said all of that, I find the question to be interesting and look forward to what the ladies think.


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Old 09-29-2013, 04:01 PM   #3
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OldSarge,

I appreciate your thoughts on this. This is why I posed the question. I also don't consider "breast play," a fetish; however, some in the hobby consider it a fetish because it is considered "outside the norm."

I'm not into the inanimate object fixation- for me, its more about the sensuality of a woman's body. To put it simply, I'm a "tit man," where as some men are "ass men."

I thoroughly enjoy a woman's breasts- the appearance, shape, cleavage, etc. etc., and I'm not necessarily looking for COT. If the woman is willing or wants that I'll gladly appease her but it is not a deal breaker. I consider my desired activity to be more in line with "breast play," but according to some hobbyists, THAT in itself is a "fetish," because that is all I'm really looking to do. But, as we have both eloquently discussed here, it doesn't meet the definition (literally or psychologically) of fetish.

Curiosity killed the cat so to speak, and I'm interested in what the ladies think
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Old 09-29-2013, 10:04 PM   #4
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I have gentlemen asking if I do fetishes and I do but then they say greek I do not consider this a fetish, feet, breast, are a fetish to me not greek.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:54 PM   #5
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I think fixation on something makes it a fetish. Greek for example of it might not be a fetish but at the same time a guy could have a greek fetish lol.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:51 AM   #6
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Really don't consider Russian a fetish, or if it is, it is a fairly mainstream one... lol
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The broad scope of fetish comes from the eye of the beholder. If they really are concentrated on a certain act or body part then we need to know so we can anticipate that. I consider anything other than MPCFS, LFK, DFK, BBBJ, spooning, and convo to be a fetish.

What I consider a fetish:
Watersports
Feet
Spit
Greek(on men or from men)
Bondage
Exhibitionism
Voyeurism
Scat(even though I do not partake in this particular one)
Extreme penetrations
Orgy/DP
Power exchange
Role play
Cum fetish
******anything else your kinky mind wants to do that is outside the realm of GFE is considered a fetish to me.


There are of course taboo subjects that are unspeakable on this board, which I consider a fetish but do not partake in.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:15 AM   #8
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I definately don't think it's a fetish. Unless, maybe you only want to worship the entire time. Maybe a fixation, but not a fetish, imo.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:03 PM   #9
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I definately don't think it's a fetish. Unless, maybe you only want to worship the entire time. Maybe a fixation, but not a fetish, imo.
^^^THIS. Thank you Scarlett. I consider it a fixation- not a fetish. I appreciate the ladies stepping up and providing insight into this interesting conversation. So, with that being said, is a fixation considered unique enough to dictate a higher rate regardless of the amount of time used/spent?

MPCFS is something I would think dictates a 1 hour minimum (both in time and rate). But, with the option for BnG as well as quickies, I would think that the rate for Russian (my chosen fixation) would be about the same as a quickie or BnG.

As I said earlier, this topic has come up because I've seen some providers that have not changed their rates (reduced) for my simple Fixation. And I've also had providers increase their rate b/c it was considered a "fetish."
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It all depends on their business model, I don't think increased rates for this "fetish" are called for, but I do think if someone like me who doesn't offer less than an hour should go with the least expensive pricing structure(provided you don't exceed your time).

Boob play is included in even my mild dates, and I wouldn't ever ask for more. But I don't know what exactly you do or ask for, so it's all relative. As long as your clear with the ladies on what you want and what's expected of them, you can always turn it down if they see it as something super kinky and worth extra expense.

Because of the area your in and the slightly limited selection they may be able to draw more for different acts. If you pay it they will ask for it again.......

Just my $.02
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:01 AM   #11
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Unfortunately, that all depends on the ladies' perspective. Imo, an hr is an hr. What I do in that hour doesn't much matter, as long as I am comfortable with it! I am happy to do special requests. It pleases me to know what makes a man tick sexually. That is part of being an escort, I think. Imo, this is a non issue.

They are boobs! Who isn't fixated?! Are you expecting a lady should lower her donation, because that is the only activity you will doing?? If that is case, that could possibly be off putting to a lady? Maybe?

Playing devils advocate. Unfortunately, all perspectives differ. All you can do is be upfront and make your decision based on their reaction.

I would not discount a session just because it heavily involved russion or upcharge for it. In my mind, time is time. You will get the best damn russion for my time, so why would I discount? Just my thoughts on it.
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:49 AM   #12
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I do alot of stuff others would consider a fetish but I love to have fun and if I enjoy something I want to do it. bondage, hot wax, greek the list goes on and on and on my friend
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Sexy Scarlett you ready to ride the sybian?
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I wouldn't ask for a discounted rate or expect an upcharge.
I would consider that sometimes ladies offer a BNG special or similar on days when other things are off limits. On those "restricted" days, they may offer a lower rate and Russian would be an option.

Getting a little off topic but expanding on what OldSarge said, there was a TV show on notlong ago that covered a scientific study someone did. In the study, they put a little vest on a rat the first few times they introduced him to a female. He pumped away, wearing his little vest. Later, they put him in with the female , but without his vest. He just lay there, completely uninterested in the female. That's what I call a fetish - he required a non-sexual thing in order to get aroused.

However, context matters. To a provider, the most important thing is probably what you want them to do. That probably falls into three categories:
Things they enjoy. They might have a shot on goal.
Things they don't particularly enjoy but don't really bother them, or are slightly odd and therefore just slightly disconcerting.
WTF dude that's weird. That might freak some people out.

To me, "fetish friendly" means they go further into the last two categories than some do.
For "Wtf" requests, some providers will say no, so supply and demand increases the price.

Russian is probably squarely in the second category - kind of boring for them, but few would decline the request, so supply and demand wouldn't increase the cost above paying them to be bored.
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Sexy Scarlett you ready to ride the sybian?
Yes ma'am! If you have one with you, I will drive to you asap!! You should be charging for that, btw! I only tried it once, but holy hell is all I have to say! I digress, sorry.

Charging more for Russion is just silly, imo. And I could see cutting it to a hh session to charge less if that is the only thing you were interested in, I suppose. A girl just has to know how to edge and tease into it to make it last if that is the only thing you are wanting.
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