Booked overnight goes wrong, whats fair payback $$$$

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by Tatiana M.

Putting myself in the hobbyists shoes, theres probably disapointment on his end. I mean, the gent was expecting an overnight fiesta, he probably cleared out his schedule with work, kids, etc. to have this overnight date, only to have the lady leave after 2 hours. But keep in mind, she did provide for 2 full hours. She did not provide for his needs overnight. Those are the facts. The original agreement and understanding was he gets a multi hour discount for booking an overnighter. She did not stay, so I would think the overnight discount would be null and void due to the fact that the overnighter didn't take place, no?

Keep in mind she should have factored in the risks of actually loosing her normal 2 hour rate because she bailed on an overnight package after 2 hours. Thus being fair she gets the pro-rated 2 hour rate vs the full 2 hour rate. Fair is fair.. No hard feeling on my part as she is the one who broke the verbal agreement. After all the verbal agreement was for an overnighter not some 2 hour meeting. So her leaving with the $170 for 2 hours is completely fair.

And it is not being cheap... Just teaching a valuable lesson. If you say and actually agree to a certain length of session and don't hold up your end then you pay the price for doing so. If I had to bail after agreeing to 8 hours after 2 I would pay her the full 8 hour rate. But her bailing 2 hours into a 8 hour gig. She suffers the penelty of doing so.

[Tatiana M.]

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Keep in mind she should have factored in the risks of actually loosing her normal 2 hour rate because she bailed on an overnight package after 2 hours. Thus being fair she gets the pro-rated 2 hour rate vs the full 2 hour rate. Fair is fair.. No hard feeling on my part as she is the one who broke the verbal agreement. After all the verbal agreement was for an overnighter not some 2 hour meeting. So her leaving with the $170 for 2 hours is completely fair.

And it is not being cheap... Just teaching a valuable lesson. If you say and actually agree to a certain length of session and don't hold up your end then you pay the price for doing so. If I had to bail after agreeing to 8 hours after 2 I would pay her the full 8 hour rate. But her bailing 2 hours into a 8 hour gig. She suffers the penelty of doing so.

I can see your point, and I can see my point also. You see, I once had a gent book a 2 hour date. He came prematurely after 30 minutes and I guess he was embarassed or something, I don't know. He wanted to go home and asked for the second hours donation back, so I gave it back to him. Are you saying I should have kept it? Even though I didn't provide for that second hour? He made an agreement to a 2 hour date, I provided for 1 hour. I returned the money and only charged him my one hour rate, because that was all that took place. I wasn't happy about it, because I was expecting a 2 hour date, but I figured it was the right thing to do based on what I had provided for (1 hour). What if the tables were turned and it is the hobbyist who wants to cut the date short? Are you saying providers should still keep the hobbyists cash because they commited to something, but couldn't pull through? Interesting!! As a hobbyist, I would love to hear your opinion on this, because I don't think theres a right or a wrong. Sometimes I think it's best to just come to a mutual agreement where both people walk away satisfied, if thats even possible. Sometimes it's not, but thats a whole other issue I guess!

[Fancyinheels]

I'm another one of those, ahem, older companions, and one that does frequent overnights. I agree with many of the ladies' points. To make sure that I'm rested for an overnight, I won't take any other appointments the day of (and you have to factor that in, which is why overnights are so expensive), and I don't do overnights with the young fellows who want to go Energizer Bunny all night long, as that just leaves me too exhausted for the next day. (Which again, goes to why a lady might ask so much for a donation, since you often aren't just taking her night, but pretty much an entire 24-hour period to do you proper justice. The fact that we actually DISCOUNT based on multiple hours is because it's expected, not because it makes any practical sense.)

Every overnight is different, as Dakota said, and yes, sleep time HAS to be discussed, as does dinner. Like Tiffani, I've done 4-5 BCD hours with nothing but a water break, but for 8-12 hours, a real meal is in order, albeit a light one, with maybe some snacks on hand for extra energy if you are going marathon. My typical overnight: dinner out (sometimes sent in, sometimes with me cooking), then we get comfy and digest in private with a cocktail and my tail in lingerie, teasing, kissing, oral delights for the taste buds, leisurely exploration that gradually increases in depth and intensity to fevered calorie burn-off, rest and a real dessert (going to need that sugar boost), an additional "cream" dessert for me or a shake for us both, actual sleep, and a bouncy breakfast in bed.

Do keep in mind that your pay escorts for time, not sex, so if you have expectations of non-stop genital gymnastics all night long, make it clear beforehand, and you might want to add a tip for leaving her sore and walking gingerly.

Not clear from the details exactly what transpired in this case, but if she actually departed after a couple of hours, all the fellow should have reimbursed her for was a couple of hours, but no, NOT prorated. I don't think it's fair, or very mature, for the fellow to take a percent off to "teach her a lesson" and penalize her when she did give him 2 hours of pleasure. (Do you get to deduct anything when your doctor gets done examining you quicker, when your flight arrives earlier?)

If a fellow books 2 hours or 10 and I try my best and he still wishes to leave early for reasons that aren't related to my performance, I expect the whole donation, and it isn't my fault if he overbooked his energy or his work or wife called. I planned my schedule to allot for a chunk of time that I won't be able to make up otherwise. However, having said that, I have also caved, depending upon circumstances, and done the same thing as Tatiana just to end things on a positive note. Good PR gets remembered.

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by Tatiana M.

I can see your point, and I can see my point also. You see, I once had a gent book a 2 hour date. He came prematurely after 30 minutes and I guess he was embarassed or something, I don't know. He wanted to go home and asked for the second hours donation back, so I gave it back to him. Are you saying I should have kept it? Even though I didn't provide for that second hour? He made an agreement to a 2 hour date, I provided for 1 hour. I returned the money and only charged him my one hour rate, because that was all that took place. I wasn't happy about it, because I was expecting a 2 hour date, but I figured it was the right thing to do based on what I had provided for (1 hour). What if the tables were turned and it is the hobbyist who wants to cut the date short? Are you saying providers should still keep the hobbyists cash because they commited to something, but couldn't pull through? Interesting!! As a hobbyist, I would love to hear your opinion on this, because I don't think theres a right or a wrong. Sometimes I think it's best to just come to a mutual agreement where both people walk away satisfied, if thats even possible. Sometimes it's not, but thats a whole other issue I guess!

Hell yes I am saying you should have kept it. It is not your problem he shot a load too early and couldn't get it back up. He made the deal for a full two hours and should have stood behind that.

Now if it is some emergency that comes up and cannot be avoided nor forecast into the formula when setting up the meeting then come to an agreement on what is fair for both. But her bailing because she couldn't keep up is no reason to give her her full 2 hour rate. She broke the verbal contract without just cause so she pays the penalty.. If she doesn't like it oh well.. Cry me a river. And bet your sweet ass she gets a bad review for this also. No need for any guy to invest his time and money into a overnight session with a chick who won't hold up her end of the deal.

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Okay, you are something serious, first of all!

I can understand some ladies not wanting to turn down a large influx of cash for any reason, but dude, you're talking about a 12 hour period with no public time at all, with fruit trays. That's highly unusual, firstly.

How so do you find that peculiar. Its late at night and these ladies have to maintain their figures. That late night eating past nine pm will screw up some weight watchers points let me tell ya....And in any case I wanna have sex first. So when her makeup smudges, her hair is tossed up, and shes tired temporarily from the session if she wants to go out to eat then, Im game. But again it shouldnt be expected its gratuity in my opinion honestly, she has plenty of time to eat before we meet.

However....there have been many times where Ive been on a dinner date and besides talking shes not ordering much to eat by her preference. She basically being paid to socialize, stimulate conversation, intrigue (she ties a cherry stem in 4 knots....impressive), and finally eat and most dont even do that. She reaching for the drinks and mostly she extrovert and gregarious in regards to info from me, but very introvert in regards to similar info about herself.

The meal ordered seems more so just a drink garnish.......why make herself gassy and bloated....she will mess around and get that itis (very lethargic). Shes either picking at her peas, eating a lil weak ass salad, or creating a fantasy conversation. I would rather go out with ladies who are real, comfortable, and relatable. And a lady who actually eats , chows down, and loosens her bel.............garter a lil bit. I can tell that type quick.

Sheed one girl asked me to buy her a separate plate so she could bring it to her kids. What part of the game is that? Not once have I had a provider take her leftovers home. They leave it in the fridge and in the morning Im throwing away filet mignon. So disrespectfuuuuuullll. Lol

How she presents herself is important too. If she wearing stripper heels, feathers, and flip flops, etc I cant do it publically. BCD is different.....Id keep that look more homely.

And sometimes depending on the ladies rates......the "required" dinner date inflates there original offered rate. That places me in a situation where Im looking at other ladies rates. One might be 1300 (with no dinner date needed) and another lady might be 1100 (with a required date). So why book time with the cheaper rate when im getting less time BCD anyway.

But the principle reason I dont always dinner date is discretion. Sometimes I dont want to place myself in a position to be seen or identified by others, much less if she advertises showing her face. You ladies can be like sorta psedo celebrities.

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Knowing your stamina, I would not cut any corners with you or give you any discounts. But I'd be slapping your ass awake after I make you pass out.

Well thats just mean. lol I would love to see enthusiasm and vigor like that in session. But its rare. And if Im sleepy I need that......Ill take a massage though.....go to work on it while I rest.

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Secondly, if you're not talking about seasoned providers, what did you expect?

Most were seasoned providers. In fact the ladies who paid back were all reputable,..... just not truthful beforehand. But every now and then my flavor gets different and I'll hunt for Gold via BP. They seem to screen much faster too. But I treat them different due to no rep. If they even so much as reach for the overnight donation before any services have taken place they gotta go. And if its a problem for her Ill easily call to try to set up wiith someome else while she gathers her things. I dont do this with reputable ladies, but very few have reached for the money first anyway. And when they do it was always down hill from there. Usually that is a tale tale sign shes about to run game.

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

And booking by noon is not advanced notice.

It seems to work for me. In the years I have hobbied I can count on one hand the ones that declined unless I gave them one day notice. And two of those ladies called back, but I had other plans made......

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

You are equally responsible for the night going wrong.

No I'm not. If she isnt energized and good to go thats her fault, I'll be fully rested as she should be....or why except the booking.

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

If you want no public time, you'll pay more.

Thats works great for both if the rate fits. So your PENALizing (pun intended) the client if he just desires a good time physically, more work I guess. I see......

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

As far as the overnights are concerned, it's more about the amenities. For one price, we go to dinner, a show, and I become the show for the rest of the night.

Not much night left...

Dinner and conversation = 1.5 hours

A show = 2 hours

A mere 8 hours left of a twelve hour booking left, and some provider go low as six hours....work it girl.

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Personally, I don't expect to sleep.

Again Im not irobot lol. Theres plenty of room for sleep. Its just intermittent though. How is she gonna sleep restfully if I awaken next to a beautiful naked and my member is poking straight up into her back. I dont want to be contemplatimg whether or not I should awaken her if Im horny (too many ules)......cause when my time is up or close to it, I guarantee she will be wide awake then.

But I agree with you in the fact that also most ladies no matter how they screen are in a heighthened state of alert. So they may sleep but its not really restful is it....your with a stranger. I book two bed rooms not because we need our sleepy poos, I book them because the bed gets wet and one needs to dry.......

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Tatiana M.

The right thing would be to pay her for the 2 hours you actually spent with her -whatever she regularly charges for 2 hours date.

What lady here is actually not going to agree with you. Its more money even though she fell well short of the goal.

Originally Posted by Tatiana M.

Yes providers do give discounts for multiple hour dates, but you actually have to go through with the date to get the multi hour discount. It stopped short, so I'd say pay whatever her 2 hour rate is.

It wasnt no disccount. That was her advertised rate. She didnt make any special hookups for me. I paid for the hotel and she took her two hour rate.........or half as those three ladies figured. Doesnt seem fair but again it hasnt been an issue for me regularly. But I guess you considerate it fair that she should be compensated to the fullest extent for her inadequacies....gotcha.

Originally Posted by Tatiana M.

I can see your point, and I can see my point also. You see, I once had a gent book a 2 hour date. He came prematurely after 30 minutes...... Are you saying I should have kept it?....... What if the tables were turned and it is the hobbyist who wants to cut the date short?

Totally different scenario. And he didnt deserve chit back. His performance isnt being paid for. But yours is. Not even in the same ballpark.

[Gucci]

Pay for play, if the session was two hours then the charge should be for two hours. If you rented Chevy cobalt you wouldn't want to be charged for the Vette now would you, and would you pay $185 a night for a room at a motel 6 ?

[Kloie]

Originally Posted by pyramider

You might want to give up the overnites. It seems that you expect the lady to be a sex machine in for a 12 hour fuck fest. Unless you are very up front with that expectation the session is bound to fail. It is very few people that can keep going and going.

You might be bettered served with a 2-4 hour appointment.

I agree If you want to go all night Then you need to donate close to the full donation...

[Red1Rooster69]

I admire gimme for the ability to research a provider and feel comfortable with an overnight right off jump street. In my limited experience, I'd have to "try in before I buy it" with a bit less of a commitment. If we clicked and I felt like she could go the distance with what I was wanting, I'd offer more money for more time (provided that was o.k. in her schedule). It just seems like you're risking the total donation for something that may or may not be what you were expecting. Besides, who wants to have to do all that math when the blood may be more south of the brain?

In the case of the gentleman wanting to leave after 1 hour when booking for 2, he asked for the time and should be obligated to pay for the time he asked for. As long as the provider was willing to stay for the whole 2 hours.

[buzzworm86]

Maybe two ejaculations with some work, and it would be nice if she would feed the cats and clean the litter box upon leaving.

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by Kloie

I agree If you want to go all night Then you need to donate close to the full donation...

I book for 8 hours and she bails after 2 because I'm killing her she gets the 2 hours of pay at the 8 hour pro-rated rate.. Which is in this case $175. She doesn't like it oh well. Not my problem

[ArisRose]

Let's be straight up here..........
What is the real reason these chicks are bailing out after 2hrs?
2 hours of humping from the average man isn't going to kill any woman.

After reading his last review and his taste for thick women, I would gather that gimmie_that is not your "average man".

[Guest041816-1]

Have you had BCD time with this lady before?
She should get paid for the 2 hours there’s a lot of girls offering the extended time for monetary reason but a lot goes into planning a evening together not just showing up and getting paid. Me personally I never booked anything over 5 hours with a person I’ve never seen before if he wants just to stay in for the evening. I have done several overnights even nights on the town and had a great time but it’s a must that I have seen the person before. It works better that way especially when overnights are concerned, you never know if the personalities are going to connect.

[ArisRose]

SMDH @ locking a rookie down for 12hrs with a fruit tray & a 12 count box of magnums.

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by BrandyMichelle

I have done several overnights even nights on the town and had a great time but it’s a must that I have seen the person before. It works better that way especially when overnights are concerned, you never know if the personalities are going to connect.

I agree with this to some extent, but its not exciting. Im not a kick the tires, test drive guy.
If I like it I want to just buy it. I dont want to spend any money on something I might like when it comes to this luxury. If she has doubts about her physical abilities in regards to sex, and she cant figure out or pick and probe at my personality properly beforehand then she isnt worthy of taking a chance on. I value confidence in this regard, but if shes has enough integrity to say she is doubtful thats cool I respect it; but I wont support it by purchasing a multi hour sampler. I want the whole entree.......

One of my ATFs was great performance wise BCD (which is more paramount to me) but she didnt do dinner dates, didnt smoke and did not want to be seen in public in general. She didnt talk much initially our first overnight date (not always a bad thing), opening up wasnt so much her strength; but in bed she was a supreme performer.......and that spoke to me more.......the pussinality (no typo). When I continued to see her for other visits pillowtalk became more comfortable and she would discuss aspects of her life. There was a distinct interest to find out more since she catered to me so well physically.

On a first time overnight her attitude and ability to perform is paramount with me, her personality is more so added incentive to book......and definitely not the deciding factor. That doesnt make me shallow.....Im just a realist.

Originally Posted by RandomBlkChick

SMDH @ locking a rookie down for 12hrs with a fruit tray & a 12 count box of magnums.

lol. Lets not forget the stack of greenbacks and leafy greens on the dresser. Cherries, diced pineapples, watermelon, shrimp platter, etc (and an other amenity she tells me about before hand) goes real good with money. After sex she can pass me my subway sandwich from earlier in the minifridge..............


Least we forget Im perferably booking a late night 9pm to 9am date. Some people dont eat much during those hours. Whats open that late in the bible belt states.....wendys, taco bell, IHOP, and waffle house....not my version of fine dining but Im a chameleon.