Healthcare

[Luvbubbles]

But, Nancy has those hugh, round tittes to do the Russian maneuver !

[Oilrig]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

Nancy did not go to the how to cheat class ????
wait, make that forgot to cheat

Democrats in swing states did not have time to fill out all the down ballot names Poll watchers signed affidavits seeing ballots with only Biden. If you want to send millions of ballots in a truck from NY to PA you can't fill out all the names for each district. A crime this big will take years to prove but make no mistake it will unravel

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Oilrig

Trump ended the 750 dollar fine for not having insurance. Joe will bring it back Chief Justice Roberts ruled it was a tax It will be just one of Joe's many broken promises not to raise taxes on anyone making less than 400,000 dollars.Joe's next move will be to strangle oil and gas supply causing a rise in price which is also a tax on poor working families

Ask yourself how much your taxes would have gone up if we actually paid that $7T Donald Trump added to the national debt over the last 4 years.

[Guest072323]

I thought this was about heathcare?

I know that my premiums went from $20 a week for a Cadillac Plan to $80 a week when we got saddled with Obamacare... and the plan was no longer Cadillac...

Cost me 4 times as much for less coverage... but the illegals got it for free....

Color me .... oh wait... we don't have colors anymore except to point out that all colors except white matter....

[Guest072323]

And if you say my life matters... you are a racist....

[bf0082]

Originally Posted by Paulie Rockstar

I thought this was about heathcare?I know that my premiums went from $20 a week for a Cadillac Plan to $80 a week when we got saddled with Obamacare... and the plan was no longer Cadillac...
Cost me 4 times as much for less coverage... but the illegals got it for free....
Color me .... oh wait... we don't have colors anymore except to point out that all colors except white matter....

The problem with the uneducated is they think Obamacare gave insurance to everyone. The reality is, the poor already have medicaid, and the illegals too....

Undocumented immigrants also cannot access the Affordable Care Act’s marketplace health coverage ( here ).

Medicaid, which covers one in five Americans, is a government sponsored program that is intended to provide public health insurance to people with low income and limited resources, including those on Medicare ( here ). The eligibility criteria vary in each state ( here ).

It is possible for undocumented immigrants to get free access to medical emergency treatment. Medicare-participating hospitals must provide stabilization and screening services to any patient with an emergency medical condition, regardless of ability to pay ( here ).
Some locally funded programs also provide healthcare coverage to undocumented immigrants. Six states, including California and New York, and the District of Columbia use Medicaid state-only funds to cover low-income children regardless of their immigration status ( here ). California extended its healthcare coverage in 2019 and became the first state to use Medicaid funds to also cover young undocumented immigrants from the ages 19 to 25.

Laws are in place to limit the U.S. taxpayers to paying for undocumented immigrants only in “extreme circumstances” ( here ). According to the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF), these emergency costs represent 1% of the overall cost of Medicaid ( here ).

Generally, undocumented immigrants face many hurdles to getting health care in the United States. These include legal restrictions, inability to afford private insurance, and not seeking other options due to fear of deportation ( here ).

The KFF reports that 47% of undocumented immigrants are uninsured. The think tank Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) says the number is 60% to 70%. Undocumented immigrants are excluded from government marketplaces like Medicare and ACA. Only emergency treatment is required to be administered to people regardless of their immigration status.

[Willie Wanker]

Originally Posted by bf0082

The problem with the uneducated is they think Obamacare gave insurance to everyone. The reality is, the poor already have medicaid, and the illegals too....

Undocumented immigrants also cannot access the Affordable Care Act’s marketplace health coverage ( here ).

Medicaid, which covers one in five Americans, is a government sponsored program that is intended to provide public health insurance to people with low income and limited resources, including those on Medicare ( here ). The eligibility criteria vary in each state ( here ).

It is possible for undocumented immigrants to get free access to medical emergency treatment. Medicare-participating hospitals must provide stabilization and screening services to any patient with an emergency medical condition, regardless of ability to pay ( here ).
Some locally funded programs also provide healthcare coverage to undocumented immigrants. Six states, including California and New York, and the District of Columbia use Medicaid state-only funds to cover low-income children regardless of their immigration status ( here ). California extended its healthcare coverage in 2019 and became the first state to use Medicaid funds to also cover young undocumented immigrants from the ages 19 to 25.

Laws are in place to limit the U.S. taxpayers to paying for undocumented immigrants only in “extreme circumstances” ( here ). According to the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF), these emergency costs represent 1% of the overall cost of Medicaid ( here ).

Generally, undocumented immigrants face many hurdles to getting health care in the United States. These include legal restrictions, inability to afford private insurance, and not seeking other options due to fear of deportation ( here ).

The KFF reports that 47% of undocumented immigrants are uninsured. The think tank Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC) says the number is 60% to 70%. Undocumented immigrants are excluded from government marketplaces like Medicare and ACA. Only emergency treatment is required to be administered to people regardless of their immigration status.

Medicaid recipients also get free medical supplies that aren't even covered through Medicare, So they're getting better coverage at no cost than the people who are paying for Medicare.
That's fucking twisted.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by Willie Wanker

Medicaid recipients also get free medical supplies that aren't even covered through Medicare, So they're getting better coverage at no cost than the people who are paying for Medicare.
That's fucking twisted.

and hence why Obama approved care(meant to kill real heath care) cost more and covers nothing to pay for the health of will not or can't find a job and the illegals. WorkersLM not to DEM

mmmm rammed to ya if not union worker. Union job ya got to keep real the good heath care ya had.

ya got ta pass it to know whats in it. To you got to get fucked to know how fucked up it was/is

like your heath care, keep it NO not true
like your DOC keep him/her, NO not true
low cost, NO costs more and covers less. lots less

[keeponrisin]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

and hence why Obama approved care(meant to kill real heath care) cost more and covers nothing to pay for the health of will not or can't find a job and the illegals. WorkersLM not to DEM

mmmm rammed to ya if not union worker. Union job ya got to keep real the good heath care ya had.

ya got ta pass it to know whats in it. To you got to get fucked to know how fucked up it was/is

like your heath care, keep it NO not true
like your DOC keep him/her, NO not true
low cost, NO costs more and covers less. lots less

You aren't on obama care ..you're on corporate greed care
Sounds like you ought to look for a better employer

[Guest072323]

The proof is in the premium.
Mine went from 20 to 80 for less coverage.
It doesn't get ant simpler than taht.

[lilylivered]

It was all about control
Just another way the government will own you

[Guest072323]

ding ding ding ding ding

[bf0082]

Originally Posted by Paulie Rockstar

The proof is in the premium.
Mine went from 20 to 80 for less coverage.
It doesn't get ant simpler than taht.

Health Insurance premiums have raised every year since 1980
Most employers covered the costs, Republican Corporate welfare got the majority of businesses to cost cut by getting rid of pensions and passing insurance increases on to the workers.

From 1974 to 1982, health care prices rose by an average of 14.1% a year for three reasons. First, prices rebounded after the wage-price controls expired in 1974. Second, Congress enacted the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974. It exempted corporations from state regulations and taxes if they self-insured. Companies took advantage of these lower-cost and flexible plans. Third, home health care took off, growing by 32.5% a year

Between 1983 and 1992, health care costs rose by an average of 9.9% each year. Home health care prices increased by 18.3% per year. Prescription drug costs rose by 12.1% a year.

Between 1993 and 2013, health care spending grew by an average of 6% a year.

After 1998, people rebelled and demanded more choice in providers. As demand increased again, so did prices. Between 1997 and 2007, drug prices tripled, according to a study in Health Affairs.

The nation’s reliance on the health insurance model increased administration costs. A 2003 study found that administration made up 31% of U.S. health care costs. It's twice the administrative costs in Canada. About half of that is due to the complexity of billing.

The reliance on corporate private insurance created health care inequality. Those without insurance often couldn't afford visits to a primary care physician.

Now you can add ObamaCare as a reason for future price increases, which probably untrue, but fox news said it happened, so it must have

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by keeponrisin

You aren't on obama care ..you're on corporate greed care
Sounds like you ought to look for a better employer

wrong, I had good health care and Obama took it away

Originally Posted by bf0082

Health Insurance premiums have raised every year since 1980
Most employers covered the costs, Republican Corporate welfare got the majority of businesses to cost cut by getting rid of pensions and passing insurance increases on to the workers.

From 1974 to 1982, health care prices rose by an average of 14.1% a year for three reasons. First, prices rebounded after the wage-price controls expired in 1974. Second, Congress enacted the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974. It exempted corporations from state regulations and taxes if they self-insured. Companies took advantage of these lower-cost and flexible plans. Third, home health care took off, growing by 32.5% a year

Between 1983 and 1992, health care costs rose by an average of 9.9% each year. Home health care prices increased by 18.3% per year. Prescription drug costs rose by 12.1% a year.

Between 1993 and 2013, health care spending grew by an average of 6% a year.

After 1998, people rebelled and demanded more choice in providers. As demand increased again, so did prices. Between 1997 and 2007, drug prices tripled, according to a study in Health Affairs.

The nation’s reliance on the health insurance model increased administration costs. A 2003 study found that administration made up 31% of U.S. health care costs. It's twice the administrative costs in Canada. About half of that is due to the complexity of billing.

The reliance on corporate private insurance created health care inequality. Those without insurance often couldn't afford visits to a primary care physician.

Now you can add ObamaCare as a reason for future price increases, which probably untrue, but fox news said it happened, so it must have

Obama approved care rates went faster that what I had also

take form some, give to others, make who took form pay for it.

[bf0082]

If anyone lost their insurance coverage, that they had previously before Obamacare, 2009, they most likely were going to lose it, or not be able to afford it in a few years anyways... 2012,2016,2020..... might have gotten a few more miles out of it, maybe 5-10 years more.

1990 most fulltime jobs offered paid healthcare and pensions, 2020 both are almost figments of one's imagination. To think you could afford, or your plan from 2008 wouldn't change by now and that you would still have it is unlikely at best.