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		|  01-06-2011, 08:36 AM | #1 |  
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				 Moving from good experience to GFE. 
 
			
			I have seen most if not all the top providers in rochester.  I am OCD about my hygiene so that's. Not the issue.  I often feel less than GFE although not rushed out the door.  I don't tip unless I feel that I have received great service. I am really passive and that could be part of it.  Miley (RIP) was perfect and Hunter is close to that GFE. Please advise.
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		|  01-06-2011, 09:07 AM | #2 |  
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			While I'm sure others will have more practical thoughts, my sig line on the old board may help:
 "It may be going too far to say the mind is everything when it comes to sex. But if not everything, it's certainly far ahead of whatever is in second place."
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		|  01-06-2011, 09:22 AM | #3 |  
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			Without a lot of specific information to go by, here is my 2-cents:
 1.  Tipping should not be an issue.
 2.  You might be setting the bar too high for what constitutes GFE.
 3.  Even though it is a service, it is interactive between two people.  Chemistry and your passivity might have played a role.
 4.  Sometimes it takes multiple visits to develop a rapport.
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		|  01-06-2011, 10:52 AM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by jackfengshui  3.  Even though it is a service, it is interactive between two people.  Chemistry and your passivity might have played a role.4.  Sometimes it takes multiple visits to develop a rapport.
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I will 2nd jack's point 3 and 4. 
 
And the op surprise me. If I started the thread I would have stated Hanna is perfect. And Miley(RIP) a very close 2nd. Not to put Hunter down. But as I see her a lot, and for so long. That my mind may be to clouded with WE and GWE to rate her so high. As close to perfect GFE. And two providers(on this board) that I have met, but no BCD time. Where very nice, And if there where some BCD, I would find it hard to say that they where close but not GFE. When I first met Hunter years ago I would put her at PSE. When she came back to providing(a few years before she and I joined boards, her first) it went straight to we know each other to much. Speeding past GFE much to fast. Guess I would have to put her at swinger buddy experience.
 
so jacks points 3 and 4 are very much in play with all we meet.    |  
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		|  01-06-2011, 12:02 PM | #5 |  
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			whats the question again ??
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		|  01-06-2011, 03:46 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by whosdair  whats the question again ?? |  
Does tipping inhance the GFE potential......
 
  
I think thats what the question seems to be.....
 
  
elg....
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		|  01-06-2011, 07:47 PM | #7 |  
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			Some people just don't "click" and not all providers are going to be the same or match with you or your fantasies.  
 You are wondering what is wrong with you but you shouldn't.........unless no one will see you.  Then you have a problem.
 
 I could run a few scenarios by you as to what might have been going on but I won't.  Stick with the girls who make you feel good and try new ones.  I'd forget about this one.
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		|  01-06-2011, 09:52 PM | #8 |  
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			GFE is such a generic term.  Smedic define your definition of GFE and the type of experience you're seeking, then fellow hobbyists may lead you to a provider that's a better match.
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		|  01-07-2011, 06:34 AM | #9 |  
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			What's GFE is to one, may not be to another.  That goes for both hobbyist and providers. We all have our own definition of GFE.
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		|  01-07-2011, 07:32 AM | #10 |  
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			I bet compared to what most guys get from their girlfriends the first time with the worst experienced provider is still better.
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		|  01-07-2011, 08:18 AM | #11 |  
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			First of all I concur with all of Jack’s points; how’s that for a first! I don’t think this thread is a continuation of the ongoing debate about what constitutes GFE. I think what smedic25 is looking for is a lady who realizes that the brain is the most important sex organ in the body. But be warned, that can be a risky road to travel for client and provider alike. The mind can be a dangerous place to play. 
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		|  01-07-2011, 08:30 AM | #12 |  
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			unless: Click the "you" in my signature line. 
ps: its a joke, back off    thanks for that link doove, doove oh doove, now where is he when you need him.
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		|  01-07-2011, 08:39 AM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by jokacz  First of all I concur with all of Jack’s points; how’s that for a first!   |  
You made my day!
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		|  01-07-2011, 08:53 AM | #14 |  
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			I'd rather have a great physical connection and an "experience" of like minds.  I really don't like gfe because it can sometimes turn into unrealistic expectations and cause problems. It's not real. It's role playing.  Like any other area in life, too kind, too nice, too accommodating, too it's all about you (very unreal) can lead to dependency and not knowing when to give a person space and freedom. To me gfe should be left to reality because some clients do not know how to leave gfe at the door when they go home. Some try to monopolize an escorts time at all hours of the day.  I learned after talking openly with people about their sexuality that not only can a person have a sex addiction but they can have a love addiction.  I never realized this.  Whether love addiction or loneliness or simply not being able to break the connection after a great experience can be very waring on an escort.
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		|  01-07-2011, 09:04 AM | #15 |  
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	Oh how I miss Pepsi and Ming, form Puja. They where so great at letting it be all about ME ME ME ME ME MEQuote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by summerwaves  I'd rather have a great physical connection and an "experience" of like minds.  I really don't like gfe because it can sometimes turn into unrealistic expectations and cause problems. It's not real. It's role playing.  Like any other area in life, too kind, too nice, too accommodating, too it's all about you (very unreal) can lead to dependency and not knowing when to give a person space and freedom. To me gfe should be left to reality because some clients do not know how to leave gfe at the door when they go home. Some try to monopolize an escorts time at all hours of the day.  I learned after talking openly with people about their sexuality that not only can a person have a sex addiction but they can have a love addiction.  I never realized this.  Whether love addiction or loneliness or simply not being able to break the connection after a great experience can be very waring on an escort. |  
 back to topic: very good statement summerwaves
 
 edit: MMMMM and a example of her statement in red. Both over the top unreal. But how can one not love how they would dry you even between your toes.
 
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