Do providers also get verified on P411?  Why bother verifying them on eccie?  Other than controlling who can place ads. I should quit whining.  I was just trying to throw out a no cost alternative for one quick source of hobbyist verification. I suppose it would be an additional burden on the staff to maintain. I think they're doing a great job with this site. And Allie, I love your perspective, especially the camera perspective of your avatar shot. 

  I think I've seen that at the Nelson with other masterpieces!   I don't want to be argumentative either so I'll be quiet now.