Social Security and Medicare-A Conservative Weapon

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

This is what the esteemed Democrat WTF thinks:

"fuc granny. Granny probably didn't even work"

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...9&postcount=11

I surprised he's not on this thread singing the praises of Paul Ryan!

Here is my entire post.

Originally Posted by WTF

Look, they have not paid in enough, yet the vast majority of old folks are Tea Folks that want to reduce the deficit and not touch their Medicare benifits. WTF!?

So we have a system set up by folks that expect the younger generation to pay for their healthcare because they were to greedy or stupid to do so themself!

So hell yea it it fuc granny. Granny probably didn't even work!

Look , they set up a flawed system. Why should we extend their life? I thought true conseratives pay for their own shit. This sounds like a bunch of commie crap to me and coming from Tea Party folks! Remember Sara Palin crying about Death Panels?

You have old folks crying about Obamacare and now they will be crying about Ryancare

[gnadfly]

More deflection by WTF. I linked to your entire post.

What will you be crying about?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

More deflection by WTF

What will you be crying about?

No free pussy...

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

This is what the esteemed Democrat WTF thinks:

"fuc granny. Granny probably didn't even work"

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...9&postcount=11

I surprised he's not on this thread singing the praises of Paul Ryan!

To be consistent, with his wish to "fuc" granny (earlier today he revealed his hots for the elderly and somewhat frumpy Teresa Kerry), he only needs to keep his proboscis where he has kept it, firmly planted in obama's anatomy, for Obama is the grand destroyer

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

To be consistent, with his wish to "fuc" granny (earlier today herevealed his hots for the elderly and somewhat frumpy Teresa Kerry), he only needs to keep his probiscus where he has kept it, firmly planted in obama's anatomy, for Obama is the grand destroyer

Paul Ryan is going to fuc you and just kick the can down the road. This is your Conserative of choice?


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/op...plan.html?_r=1


Mr. Ryan showed his conservative mettle in 2008 when he folded like a lawn chair on the auto bailout and the Wall Street bailout. But the greater hypocrisy is his phony “plan” to solve the entitlements mess by deferring changes to social insurance by at least a decade. A true agenda to reform the welfare state would require a sweeping, income-based eligibility test, which would reduce or eliminate social insurance benefits for millions of affluent retirees. Without it, there is no math that can avoid giant tax increases or vast new borrowing. Yet the supposedly courageous Ryan plan would not cut one dime over the next decade from the $1.3 trillion-per-year cost of Social Security and Medicare.

[CJ7]

probiscus a new flower I dont know about?

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by CJ7

probiscus a new flower I dont know about?

I fixed it cell phone typing isn't my forte , thanks for pointing it out

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by WTF

No free pussy...

You are not approaching the right grandmas.

[Submodo]

What about the 54 year old? He gets screwed? 55, but oh noooo, not 54 or 56...

I love the idea of the fair tax (just would like to see it detailed more) because I'm fed up with these arbitrary rules that aren't based on anything.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

You are not approaching the right grandmas.

Maybe I can get one to stay up with me tonight and watch the Elvis marathon ...

You boys can debate away on how conserative Paul Ryan is!

[Guest123018-4]

The liberals roll this out at every election to scare those on SS and Medicare yet no Republican or conservative has ever done a thing to either.

The Obama administration is robbing Medicare to the tune of over 700 billion dollars in order to make Obamacare appear less costly. This is money that has been paid in to the Medicare trust fund. Seniors should be very scared.....of Obama.

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Submodo

What about the 54 year old? He gets screwed? 55, but oh noooo, not 54 or 56...

I love the idea of the fair tax (just would like to see it detailed more) because I'm fed up with these arbitrary rules that aren't based on anything.

I with you on that one, bro.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Submodo

What about the 54 year old? He gets screwed? 55, but oh noooo, not 54 or 56...

I love the idea of the fair tax (just would like to see it detailed more) because I'm fed up with these arbitrary rules that aren't based on anything.

They are not arbitrary rules, they are based on who is paying for the politicans re election. Follow the money. Google Citizens United if you want to find out who will be getting the tax breaks in decades to come.

[Whirlaway]

No; I think the Ryan plan offers the opportunity to stay in the Medicare program, or opt out........so you aren't being screwed i don't think......but IMO, opting to stay in the Medicare system, would be screwing yourself.

Originally Posted by Submodo

What about the 54 year old? He gets screwed? 55, but oh noooo, not 54 or 56...

I love the idea of the fair tax (just would like to see it detailed more) because I'm fed up with these arbitrary rules that aren't based on anything.

[nevergaveitathought]

there is no ryan plan

there was a wyden/ryan plan that passed the house and didnt pass in the senate...it was a compromise plan (as most things are, a compromise, except obamacare....which was one-sided only) that went nowhere...it is and has been dead

the plan is the romney plan...that is the plan romney is running on..that is the only plan at issue...ryan has signed on to the romney plan...the romney plan is no change in medicare whatsoever....save and except..restoring the 716 billion obama took out of it to mask the trauma that is obamacare