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06-12-2012, 09:58 PM
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Obama's Jewish Support Drops 22 Points in New York
Looks like Obama's base is beginning to crumble. Maybe Jewish voters are finally starting to realize the man they've been supporting is an anti-semite.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...rk_647153.html
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06-12-2012, 10:04 PM
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06-12-2012, 10:04 PM
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in my best Gomer Pyle voice
Surprise Surprise Surprise
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06-12-2012, 10:34 PM
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In 1980 Carter led Reagan right up until the last week. Then Reagan crushed him. I'm hoping for deja vu all over again.
From the book, "Jimmy Carter's Economy"
Those who were of an age to vote remember only the lopsided victory of Ronald Reagan in the 1980 election: 51 percent of the popular vote versus 41 percent for Carter. John Anderson, a Republican congressman from Illinois who ran as an independent, received 7 percent of the ballots cast. What most have forgotten is that despite the almost overwhelming problems faced by Carter before the election, the race was close until the last week. Just before the single televised debate between Carter and Reagan on October 28, the president led the challenger in the Gallup poll approval rating, 45 to 42 percent. Following the debate the advantage shifted to Reagan—44 percent for Reagan and 43 percent for Carter. In the final poll, Reagan's advantage increased—47 percent to 44 percent. Gallup later reported that "Reagan's sweeping victory in the November election reflects one of the most dramatic shifts ever recorded in voter preferences in the last week of a presidential campaign.
http://uncpress.unc.edu/browse/page/218
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06-12-2012, 10:41 PM
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Polls are interesting, but not determinative until October. Still, it has to cause concern for the Obama campaign.
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06-12-2012, 11:39 PM
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Maybe they got to wondering what history would say about American Jews who stood by and let Isreal be destroyed because of politics.
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06-13-2012, 06:18 AM
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Naive
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Maybe they got to wondering what history would say about American Jews who stood by and let Isreal be destroyed because of politics.
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Maybe they should move back to Israel if they do not like our foreign policy. Israel has nothing to worry about , unless of course Israel looks at how greedy these guys were in the run up to the 2008 meltdown!
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06-13-2012, 06:23 AM
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Love it or Leave it sloganeering is beneath you WTF; and your post sounds like anti-semitic stereotyping /scapegoating........who is "these guys " WTF?
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Maybe they should move back to Israel if they do not like our foreign policy. Israel has nothing to worry about , unless of course Israel looks at how greedy these guys were in the run up to the 2008 meltdown! 
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06-13-2012, 07:02 AM
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If the Jewish Democratic voting bloc truly crumbles in NY; then Florida (and Romney's chances of an electoral win) is brighter. And that means Romney would be freer to pick a VP candidate who is not a regional play (i.e. NOT Rubio).
A truly conservative hispanic ....any ideas who ?
Chip away at the hispanic vote and Romney could easily pick up Colorado and New Mexico, and possibly Michigan......putting the pieces in place for an electoral thumping !
Here's hoping.
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06-13-2012, 07:21 AM
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who is "these guys " WTF?
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The Fed Chairman(s) for the last 30 years and all their buddies.
They run the country...Not Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush I or Reagan, these guys in control of the money , run the country. Just ask Jimmy Carter.
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06-13-2012, 07:26 AM
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If the Jewish Democratic voting bloc truly crumbles in NY; then Florida (and Romney's chances of an electoral win) is brighter. And that means Romney would be freer to pick a VP candidate who is not a regional play (i.e. NOT Rubio).
A truly conservative hispanic ....any ideas who ?
Chip away at the hispanic vote and Romney could easily pick up Colorado and New Mexico, and possibly Michigan......putting the pieces in place for an electoral thumping !
Here's hoping.
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Well at least you are brighter than some of these Tea Nuts.
You seem to realize that it is not going to be as easy as some of these right wing loons think.
The betting odds are right now are about 2.5 : 1 in favor of Obama. Mitt has a really hard road to 270. The swing states line up for Obama. But the election is a way off and much can happen. But unless something drastic happens (spike in oil) Obama will probably win.
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06-13-2012, 07:41 AM
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The Jewish vote is only two percent of the total vote. If Obama loses 22% of the Jewish vote, that's roughly one half of one percent of the total vote. The real significance of the softening of Jewish support is the loss of money. Jews also have a disproportionate influence in journalism, academia and the arts which they traditionally use to support Democrats.
I think there may be an unspoken element in the importance of traditional Jewish support of Democrats and liberal causes. America was founded on Judeo-Christian culture and beliefs. According to the Bible, the Jews are God's chosen people. I think Democrats may benefit, at a subconscious level, from Jewish support, by gaining the right to claim the moral highground.
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06-13-2012, 07:47 AM
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It can make the difference in Florida where 9% of the total votes in 2008 election were jewish.
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06-13-2012, 07:52 AM
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Your handicapping and electoral vote counting skills are poor.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...llege_map.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...UdLV_blog.html
A 60% probability of an Obama win doesn't translate into a 2.5:1 betting odds.
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Well at least you are brighter than some of these Tea Nuts.
You seem to realize that it is not going to be as easy as some of these right wing loons think.
The betting odds are right now are about 2.5 : 1 in favor of Obama. Mitt has a really hard road to 270. The swing states line up for Obama. But the election is a way off and much can happen. But unless something drastic happens (spike in oil) Obama will probably win.
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06-13-2012, 08:00 AM
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