Two weeks cease fire thanks to the superior diplomatic skills of President Donald J. Trump

[1blackman1]

lol. The strait is open. Ok.

Iran wasn’t near a nuclear weapon. And they still have the uranium Trump allowed them to enrich to 60%. So I guess he was trying to fix a prop leg he caused. Moreover, we don’t have any idea where the uranium is. Which means they may be able to further enrich it in a few months or maybe next year. Or the year after.

Facts matter

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Yes, it's Open - with a backup of ships...
But the other nations are poised to take control of the Strait.

President Trump has proved that Iran cannot be trusted.
Which is WHY the Ceasefire was for onley TWO weeks.

You've been rather fair-minded in this one, mate.
And reckon YOU have to agree that preventing Iran
from any nuclear capability is a GOOD thing, yes?

#### Salty

The only thing Trump proved is that it's best to let sleeping dogs lie. Israel is being destroyed and America will fork over Billions of dollars to help restore that Demonic hell hole.

[Mplay]

Love Trump has exposed NATO. Time to gtfo.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

lol. The strait is open. Ok.

Iran wasn’t near a nuclear weapon. And they still have the uranium Trump allowed them to enrich to 60%. So I guess he was trying to fix a prop leg he caused. Moreover, we don’t have any idea where the uranium is. Which means they may be able to further enrich it in a few months or maybe next year. Or the year after.

Facts matter

... Facts matter? ... Too right they do, mate.

You DO understand that Oman, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are
right there in the Strait with Iran, yes?
Oman and Iran share the space...

... Those other nations will be directing things - not Iran.

And as far as the uranium goes - we'll see how Iran
fares with that... And everything else.

#### Salty

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Mplay

Love Trump has exposed NATO. Time to gtfo.

... That's GRAND, mate... And maybe Trump will have
NATO payin' for the Israel rebuild...
And maybe that of Iran...

... Let's see how the Ceasefire continues to play-out.

#### Salty

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Facts matter? ... Too right they do, mate.

You DO understand that Oman, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are
right there in the Strait with Iran, yes?
Oman and Iran share the space...

... Those other nations will be directing things - not Iran.

And as far as the uranium goes - we'll see how Iran
fares with that... And everything else.

#### Salty

Uh yeah. Iran has control over the strait. Oman has no power. Saudi and UAE aren’t in control of anything. That’s why Iran is talking about setting a toll, which is working for them at the moment.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

lol. The strait is open. Ok.

Facts matter

According to the Times the Iranians are unable to find all the sea mines they laid in the strait and lack the capability to remove them. It may be some time before they strait is fully cleared and open to shipping. Clearing the strait is going to take some time, effort and technical expertise that the Iranians just don’t have.


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/10/u...es-strait.html
https://archive.ph/gYTFO

Iran Unable to Find Mines It Planted in Strait of Hormuz, U.S. Says
The lost mines have prevented Iran from quickly complying with President Trump’s demand to allow more ships to pass through the waterway.

Iran has been unable to open the Strait of Hormuz to more shipping traffic because it cannot locate all of the mines it laid in the waterway and lacks the capability to remove them, according to U.S. officials.
…
Iran used small boats to mine the strait last month, soon after the United States and Israel began their war against the country. The mines, plus the threat of Iranian drone and missile attacks, slowed the number of oil tankers and other vessels passing through the strait to a trickle, driving up energy prices and providing Iran with its best leverage in the war.

Iran left a path through the strait open, allowing ships that pay a toll to pass through.

Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps has issued warnings that ships could collide with sea mines, and semiofficial news organizations have published charts showing safe routes.

Those routes are limited in large part because Iran mined the strait haphazardly, U.S. officials said. It is not clear that Iran recorded where it put every mine. And even when the location was recorded, some mines were placed in a way that allowed them to drift or move, according to the officials.

As with land mines, removing nautical mines is far more difficult than placing them. The U.S. military lacks robust mine removal capabilities, relying on littoral combat ships equipped with mine sweeping capabilities. Iran also does not have the capability of quickly removing mines, even the ones it planted.
…
Click the link above to read the full article.

[pxmcc]

once the mines are cleared, U.S. navy warships should start accompaning oil tankers through the Strait. Iran would have to be nuts to attack in such a scenario during the cease fire. Trump mentioned U.S. govt insurance which i think might also be needed.

would 2 destroyers or cruisers be sufficient per tanker?

i'm wondering if the mines might be sort of Iran's excuse as to why they can't fully open the Strait. prior to the war, approximately 130 ships moved through the Strait a day. now it's like 4, and always under the direct supervision of the IRGC, which is fuckery. tolls of 2 million/ship might already be in force.

@txdot: nope. that's why the U.S. military must first declare the mines cleared and US govt insurance would be needed. insurers and ship owners are extremely conservative with their massive investments.

[txdot-guy]

Are Insurance companies willing to insure commercial vessels and their cargoes against a catastrophic oil spill created by a sea mine explosion?

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2026...s-last-resort/
In response to skyrocketing premiums and cancelled policies, the Trump administration directed the US International Development Finance Corporation (DFC) to provide political risk insurance to support continued shipping activity through the Strait of Hormuz.

https://www.dfc.gov/media/press-rele...upport-private
DFC’s Political Risk Insurance and Guaranty Products Will Support Private Sector Operations, Including Shipping, in Gulf Region

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter

Superior diplomatic skills? Nope
Superior military is the correct reason.

Note that the Israelis are not part of the deal. Opps.

Key issue, once the Tankers that were afraid to run the Straight to get out the Persian Gulf, how many will actually return empty for another load? Their Insurance Companies will have the final say on that.

Last, just because, who remembers the Petroline pipelines across Saudi Arabia?
Their dual pipes are running 5 to 7 million barrels per day to the port of Yanbu where tankers are lined up at the two terminals to take loads to Europe through the Suez or to elsewhere through the Gulf of Aden. Yanbu is currently loading two VLCC's per day and may get up to four.

To conclude:
"War is the continuation of politics by other means" - von Clausewitz from his book published in 1832.

Only "diplomatic" skill i've seen by the wishy washy orange guy is to scream like a child that has never had to listen to the word No.

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

no one won yet, no one lost yet


Iron buying time for something

giving US time ta be more ready
US will be watching closely



who fires first

The whole thing was started without a plan for win/loss.

War is usually stupid. This is the first one that I remember that is started by a stupid guy.

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

You keep claiming that while offering ZERO evidence to back up your trolling.

You can glean the evidence from his post in the PF. Legwork, Lantern. Legwork.

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

offer him a looking glass

mmmm US says Israel not part
Iran say is part of

I'll say not part of
Israel did not hit Iran

But they sure are working over their buddies in Lebanon.

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

or not giving the enemy all unlike DEM's that give that and cash

What cash was "given"? Seems the only $$$ I know that passed to them was their own. And seems that stopped pretty fast since that is one of their demands to open the strait.

Originally Posted by panigale

This is such a monumental diplomatic accomplishment that Trump will soon become the only person in history to receive a second FIFA Peace Prize!

LOL!

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

How the hell is this war supposed to stop if sides can't even agree on the terms of what is actually in the ceasefire agreement? Oh well, smart of Israel to sucker Trump's stupid ass into their war that every POTUS prior to the diaper wearing man baby had enough sense to avoid. Other than blowing up a bunch of shit and unfortunately innocent children as well; and fracturing our economy, I fail to see how this war makes America great again. If this is winning, what the fuck does losing look like for this country.

From the list of goals/objectives I asked for on another thread, not one single supposed target has been achieved. *BIG* fucking waste of $$$$$$$. But the maggies don't care about that. Only care to yell how wasteful the joey/bama admin was. Boy. They sure aren't gonna like the comparison when the GAO releases its figures when donny leaves.

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... The issue between Israel and Lebanon was NOT part of
the Ceasefire Agreement with Iran, mate.

President Trump has already pointed that out.

#### Salty

Could you supply a link to this Ceasefire Agreement?
I really don't think their is one....or one that donny would want to honour.
Hell, according to him, he already won and he doesn't care what anybody thinks.

....Repeat: He doesn't care what anyone thinks.


That's a pretty caring potus for the citizens of this country.

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Iran still isn't going to adhere to a cease fire. I am not a fan of either Israel or Iran, but Iran is running this show.

And Israel ain't letting anyone get in the way of their objectives.

Originally Posted by Mplay

Love Trump has exposed NATO. Time to gtfo.

What's to expose? The NATO Charter is openly available to the public to read. The rule of law is clearly stated in the Washington Treaty.

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... That's GRAND, mate... And maybe Trump will have
NATO payin' for the Israel rebuild...
And maybe that of Iran...

... Let's see how the Ceasefire continues to play-out.

#### Salty

NaCl-y and a few others here seem to have the wrong idea what organization should be referenced. Much closer to UN activities. But if you want to plug NATO, than SEATO is closer to the area. But not part of it. CENTO is dead on.