Psssst…. Gas prices are falling!!!!

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

What's funnier is that gas is currently 7 cents higher here in Pgh than a year ago today.

Enjoy!

Woah! How dare you call out Dem PA governor Shapiro!

Gas prices are flat nationally, too bad Shapiro can’t do better. I agree Shapiro’s performance is hilarious!

Why isn’t he lobbying to lower PA gas tax?

The national average price for regular unleaded gasoline was $3.07 per gallon on January 20, 2025, according to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) and AAA reports. On November 17, 2025, it’s $3.073 per gallon, per AAA’s latest update—a tiny increase of just 0.3 cents, which is within normal daily fluctuations and not statistically significant.
For context, prices rose slightly in early 2025 due to oil market volatility but have stabilized and dipped in late fall with seasonal demand drops and cheaper winter-blend fuel. If you’re looking at regional or state-specific prices, they can vary more (e.g., California averages over $4.50, while Mississippi is under $2.70 today).

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Woah! How dare you call out Dem PA governor Shapiro!

Gas prices are flat nationally, too bad Shapiro can’t do better. I agree Shapiro’s performance is hilarious!

Why isn’t he lobbying to lower PA gas tax?

The national average price for regular unleaded gasoline was $3.07 per gallon on January 20, 2025, according to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) and AAA reports. On November 17, 2025, it’s $3.073 per gallon, per AAA’s latest update—a tiny increase of just 0.3 cents, which is within normal daily fluctuations and not statistically significant.
For context, prices rose slightly in early 2025 due to oil market volatility but have stabilized and dipped in late fall with seasonal demand drops and cheaper winter-blend fuel. If you’re looking at regional or state-specific prices, they can vary more (e.g., California averages over $4.50, while Mississippi is under $2.70 today).

Gristle never scratches deeper than the surface. I’ve posted many times that Pa has one of the highest gas taxes in the country. He just can’t figger it out.

[HDGristle]

3rd highest, actually. Didn't increase from 2024 to 2025.

It is expected to increase next July, though.

So, the tax doesn't account for why gas is more expensive this year rather than last year.

I do love when you boys use my lines, but you have to use them correctly and have command of the facts

[Green_Mountain]

As of today gas prices are flat nationally but higher in Pennsylvania according to you.

PA has underperformed vs the rest of the nation if you will.

Nobody said PA gas taxes have increased in 2025.

PA has underperformed vs the nation & we know PA gas taxes are high.

So why isn’t Shapiro advocating to lower PA gas taxes to give people some relief?

[HDGristle]

7 cents higher here today under Trump vs last year under Biden. So not just more expensive in PA, in general... but not falling. That's sad.

If you'd like to know what Shapiro is or isn't doing... write him a letter

[Green_Mountain]

Sorry Trump has held gas prices flat nationally.

PA is up 7 cents according to you. The increase is on Shapiro to figure out for PA.

PA should be flat like the National prices, that’s the benchmark.

[HDGristle]

I see. Credit but no blame. Can't be the PA tax so maybe you're missing a factor or forgot how averages work or how gas market dynamics play into this. We'll call this a foul tip on the first swing

What states are down and what states are up other than PA? I'm confident you'll figure it out.

[Green_Mountain]

I should have known better than to not fact check.

“Donald Trump’s second inauguration occurred on January 20, 2025. Based on historical data from AAA and GasBuddy, the average price for regular unleaded gasoline in Pennsylvania around that date was approximately $3.44 per gallon.”


Gas in PA today, according to AAA is $3.286. https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=PA

[bambino]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

3rd highest, actually. Didn't increase from 2024 to 2025.

It is expected to increase next July, though.

So, the tax doesn't account for why gas is more expensive this year rather than last year.

I do love when you boys use my lines, but you have to use them correctly and have command of the facts

Then lower the fucking gas tax! DUH

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Gas in PA today, according to AAA is $3.286. https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=PA

Which is higher today than 1 year ago

Originally Posted by bambino

Then lower the fucking gas tax! DUH

Contact your state rep and state senator. The governor doesn't have unilateral power to raise or lower gas taxes. Thank you for your attention to this matter

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Which is higher today than 1 year ago



Contact your state rep and state senator. The governor doesn't have unilateral power to raise or lower gas taxes. Thank you for your attention to this matter

Which is nothing more than a convenient data point for you to use so “you can get Trump”.

Trump wasn’t in office a year ago.

[HDGristle]

No, he most certainly wasn't. Biden was. Which means gas was lower last year under Biden than it was this year under Trump. We're not cherry picking at highest and lowest, or mixing months or going back to pandemic pricing. We're not pinning to an arbitrary date that crosses that seasonality you mentioned earlier.

Looking 1 year back is a common metric. So common that AAA shows it directly. If I wanted to argue over whether it's up or down since last week, that lacks the tempering of long-term perspective. But YoY is that sweet spot most folks, other than you, like to measure by.

Your metrics aren't untrue, they're just not apples to apples and commonly used.

[jayzee43]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

No, he most certainly wasn't. Biden was. Which means gas was lower last year under Biden than it was this year under trump. We're not cherry picking at highest and lowest, or mixing months or going back to pandemic pricing. We're not pinning to an arbitrary date that crosses that seasonality you mentioned earlier.

Looking 1 year back is a common metric. So common that AAA shows it directly. If I wanted to argue over whether it's up or down since last week, that lacks the tempering of long-term perspective. But YoY is that sweet spot most folks, other than you, like to measure by.

Your metrics aren't untrue, they're just not apples to apples and commonly used.

He really, truly doesn't understand the concept of COMPARISON. It's continually stunning to me. It's been clearly explained several times now, and he still doesn't get it.

[HDGristle]

He gets it, it's just not the comparison he wants to wants to make.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Sorry Trump has held gas prices flat nationally.

PA is up 7 cents according to you. The increase is on Shapiro to figure out for PA.

PA should be flat like the National prices, that’s the benchmark.

The whole charade that a POTUS has the kind of impact you think he does over gasoline prices is amusing at best. The tapping of strategic reserves 'might' influence it a little bit, but we run through so much gasoline on a weekly and monthly basis- that even that is just a pittance towards the bigger picture. What specific policies would you suggest that this president or any has towards the actual cost of gasoline?

Instead of investing in shit like Intel or a lithium mine- Trump could do a lot more by owning a true money maker- like distillation refinery.

but please go on about how gasoline is a presidential persuasion outcome. Shapiro (who's not the topic of this thread), could ask to cut taxes, but PA can't live without those gasoline taxes anymore than they could live with keeping the turnpike a free ride across the state.