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Old 11-02-2025, 09:25 AM   #91
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Spoken like a true American… in 1840.
mmmm year my home was built
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If illegals have kids while in the states, they obviously should go back to whatever country the parents get sent back to.
Why?
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Old 11-02-2025, 10:10 AM   #93
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If illegals have kids while in the states, they obviously should go back to whatever country the parents get sent back to.
you want to talk about immigration? Start another thread. And explain why Trump and his kids are any more American than the American born children of immigrants and refugees.

But not here. This thread is about ripping food from the mouths of babies unfortunate enough to have been born in MAGAland.
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With all due respect, bullshit.
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By bullshit, do you mean this kinda bullshit isn't happening?Or is it because it was on X or from a source you don't like, because it's a might bit too inconvenient to hear the truth?

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Newsmax host @RobFinnertyUSA just said what no one in mainstream media will admit about SNAP.

He tore the mask off the entire food stamps program...and what he revealed will infuriate taxpayers....
Yeah. Ummm, you should have gone with choice #1: this kinda BULLSHIT isn't happening. Yssup's skepticism of the sources MAGA uses in this thread, including X, is well justified.

But I know skepticism like that can be inconvenient. Hence, you never vet. Never fact check. And like many MAGA posters here, the things you post like this on here are constantly being discredited. But also like many in MAGA, you just pretend to never see it and hope it goes away.

This one isn't going to go away just yet.

Let's bring that little Rob Finnerty rant back for a little dissection here.

I will summarize for the impatient: IT'S BULLSHIT. Misrepresented "facts" and lies. No credible source cited.

And if you try to find where he got his BULLSHIT from, all you will find is post-after-repost-after-repost-after-repost....on X and every other piece of shit social media site out there (including this one now!).

Finerty has turned into his own source, as he has now been reposted so many times that it is a circular morass of BULLSHIT that cannot be waded through.

It seems that the only real media site that I can find that figured part of this out is...wait for it...fucking Al Jazeera. How fucked up is that?

You can read what they say here, if you want to bother: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...%20noncitizens.

I'm not sure that they are right. But at least they tried.

Regardless, let's post some actual FACTS here, calling out the BULLSHIT.

Here is a quick summary of who received SNAP benefits in 2024. My source? The US Department of Agriculture, compiled by Google AI.

Overall Proportions

U.S.-born citizens: 89.4% of all SNAP recipients.
Foreign-born individuals (total): Less than 11% of recipients.

Breakdown of Foreign-Born Recipients

Naturalized citizens: 6.2% of all recipients.
Other noncitizens (including lawful permanent residents and other eligible noncitizens): 3.3% of all recipients.
Refugees: 1.1% of all recipients.

1.764 million non-citizens received SNAP benefits out of a total average monthly participation of around 41.7 million people in FY 2024.

I couldn't find anywhere that mentioned the "millions of Joe Biden, illegal aliens, people who crossed the border when Joe was president, are now collecting food stamps from a program funded by hardworking American taxpayers.”

It seems that is...inconveniently...not true. A lie. BULLSHIT.

But here's another inconvenient truth for you:

Non-citizens who are eligible for SNAP benefits use them at a lower rate than U.S.-born citizens.

Again, source is USDA.

That could be considered a mic drop almost. But that would require objectivity. I have no hope of that here.

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There is literally no fucking end to the hate that MAGA will support.
Literally, no end. In your obsession with demonizing immigrants, you spew hate and lies about a program that serves millions of the most vulnerable people in the country. Millions of them are registered Republicans who voted for Trump.

They have little to eat. While MAGA..again..eats its own.

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... Fact and Truth right there... .

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Nope. No matter how many times you say it.

CIS is another discredited, lying MAGA shill organization.

CIS is a piece of shit. Co-founded by a eugenicist and White Nationalist.

From their Wikipedia entry:

"Reports published by CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration, fact-checkers and news outlets, and immigration-research organizations. The organization had significant influence within the Trump administration,[8] which cited the group's work to defend its immigration policies.[9] The Southern Poverty Law Center designated CIS as a hate group with ties to the American nativist movement.[10]"


You would think this would stop after things like this get trashed so many times. Nope. The hate continues.
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Old 11-02-2025, 12:15 PM   #96
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Why?
You’d rather kids stay without their parents? If they’re of age and citizens then it’d be their choice I suppose, but minors should be with their parents.
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Nope. No matter how many times you say it.

CIS is another discredited, lying MAGA shill organization.

CIS is a piece of shit. Co-founded by a eugenicist and White Nationalist.

From their Wikipedia entry:

"Reports published by CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration, fact-checkers and news outlets, and immigration-research organizations. The organization had significant influence within the Trump administration,[8] which cited the group's work to defend its immigration policies.[9] The Southern Poverty Law Center designated CIS as a hate group with ties to the American nativist movement.[10]"


You would think this would stop after things like this get trashed so many times. Nope. The hate continues.
Ignorance is bliss.

And MAGA is the happiest place on earth.

Best way to manage the truth is to ignore the facts.
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But not here. This thread is about ripping food from the mouths of babies unfortunate enough to have been born in MAGAland.
Children should be provided for by their parents. Didn’t your mom and dad feed you and your siblings if you have any? Mine did, as I have for mine. When I was a kid being on government assistance was highly embarrassing and many families who qualified still wouldn’t do it. Kids with the little tickets they gave for free and reduced school lunches got teased mercilessly, you’d eat asphalt from the playground before being spotted using them. Not today, the stigma of being a loser who can’t provide for and protect your own family has, unfortunately, disintegrated.
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What's the point? That poor people shouldn't get assistance because it's embarrassing? That so called stigma absolves us of our responsibility to feed the hungry, etc???

Starvation and disease are worse than embarrassment.

And there's no good reason for this cruelty. None.
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Who is this “our”? It’s not my responsibility to feed your or anyone else’s family, as it’s not yours to feed mine.
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We as a nation are measured by how we care for our neediest citizens.
You are free to opt out.

Thank you my fellow American.
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Old 11-02-2025, 02:41 PM   #102
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Of which nation(s)? Does it include all 162 nationalities that crossed over a wide the hell open border during the pResident AutoPen regime? Does it also include the ones, even including the wee ones he kept in cages, during the O'Bama-nation regime?
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Who is this “our”? It’s not my responsibility to feed your or anyone else’s family, as it’s not yours to feed mine.
The morality of the society we live in is directly proportional to the ability of its members to feel empathy and compassion towards its own.

Attitudes like this are the reason people think it’s okay to cheat on their taxes.
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... Illegal Immigrants and illegal refugees??
About time THEIR food stamps are being cut off...

... "Ya don't - HAVE - to live like a REf-u-gee!"

... You surely don't gotta live like a refugee.
Go back from which you came... Self-deport.

... OR have the Dems end the shutdown...

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Than why all ya maggies got threads started lamenting the libbys causing the hold up of funding for it?

Git youse narrative in order.

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Nope. No matter how many times you say it.

CIS is another discredited, lying MAGA shill organization.

CIS is a piece of shit. Co-founded by a eugenicist and White Nationalist.

From their Wikipedia entry:

"Reports published by CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration, fact-checkers and news outlets, and immigration-research organizations. The organization had significant influence within the Trump administration,[8] which cited the group's work to defend its immigration policies.[9] The Southern Poverty Law Center designated CIS as a hate group with ties to the American nativist movement.[10]"


You would think this would stop after things like this get trashed so many times. Nope. The hate continues.
Thanks for pointing that out. I was gonna just leave the posting of the graph alone until you piped up.




You called it, Mort. Typical maggie pulp to enrage the sheeple in the cult of donny. Plenty of negatives listed with them. One of many:

"CIS has also been accused of using a poor methodology and cherry-picking information. For example, in this strongly right-leaning Cato Institute article dated 12/5/2018, “Center for Immigration Studies Overstates Immigrant, Non-Citizen, and Native Welfare Use,” they report that “there are a few issues with the CIS report and an unsound methodological choice that they made that results in inflating the welfare use rates for immigrants and natives.” Cato also cited them in 2015 for exaggeration through cherry-picking information.

In 2009, the SPLC pointed out four more studies debunked as inaccurate, which you can read here.

In general, CIS publishes information meant to sway political leaders and the general voter that immigration is harmful to the USA due to economic reasons and through claims of increased crime. However, CIS has published misleading information in many cases, as evidenced above."


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Who is this “our”? It’s not my responsibility to feed your or anyone else’s family, as it’s not yours to feed mine.
So I guess that means you aren't about the school lunch program either. You are a miser when it comes to charity. Even when it is proven to be of benefit to the whole.

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Literally, no end. In your obsession with demonizing immigrants, you spew hate and lies about a program that serves millions of the most vulnerable people in the country. Millions of them are registered Republicans who voted for Trump.

They have little to eat. While MAGA..again..eats its own.

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Amen.
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The morality of the society we live in is directly proportional to the ability of its members to feel empathy and compassion towards its own.

Attitudes like this are the reason people think it’s okay to cheat on their taxes.
Your idea of morality is taking, by force, from a person or group of people for the benefit of another. That’s not moral, it’s theft and is in no way empathetic or compassionate.
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