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09-28-2025, 05:47 PM
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Trump tariffs wreck US agricultural exports
"Trump launched his tariff war earlier this year expressing confidence that China’s reliance on the U.S. market would force Beijing to accept trade terms that benefited American businesses and consumers. Six months after the president’s “Liberation Day” tariffs and weeks from the Nov. 10 White House cutoff for a trade pact between the two countries, U.S. soybean farmers are learning that China — long the predominant market for their product — doesn’t need them anymore.
China has not purchased any U.S. soybeans since May, according to the American Soybean Association. Beijing has pivoted to suppliers in Brazil and Argentina.
All agriculture exports to China were down 53 percent in the first seven months of 2025, compared with the same period last year, according to USDA data.
The dramatic shift echoes China’s response to the tariff war during Trump’s first term when the value of U.S. soybean exports plunged to $3.1 billion in 2018 from $14 billion in 2016.
“How can we be surprised? It’s a repeat of Trump 1.0,” said Marc Busch, who has advised both the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative and the Commerce Department from 2012 to 2018 on trade and is a professor of international business diplomacy at Georgetown University. “They didn't need Liberation Day or fentanyl tariffs to get them to rush to this playbook — it had been well worn in the first Trump administration and to great effect.”
China’s move to stop buying U.S. soybeans underscores how Trump’s ambitions to use aggressive tariffs as a lever for better trade deals with Beijing have repeatedly backfired."
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09-28-2025, 06:42 PM
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Pah. Come on! This is 5-D Chess.
It is not surprising that this seems like a "bad" thing to you. I'll bet you don't understand Quantum Mechanics very well either, do you? And I bet you blame Trump for that too!
Deranged.
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09-29-2025, 04:21 PM
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And still doing less damage than Democrats
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09-29-2025, 05:15 PM
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The above 2 posts make no sense at all. Possibly because they can't find a way to defend Trump and the problems he has directly created. It was the same thing his 1st term as President.
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Yesterday, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
The above 2 posts make no sense at all. Possibly because they can't find a way to defend Trump and the problems he has directly created. It was the same thing his 1st term as President.
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When you don't understand the big picture and only look to blame the other sides political party you aren't even open to understanding economics.
1. First off everyone knows U.S. Agriculture strongly supported Trump. So to put maximum pressure on Trump agriculture issues will be the last to find a solution.
2. Democrats don't grasp how much all their rules and regulations cost farmers. It is all about central power and having lawyers with no knowledge of the industry they regulate write regulations.
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Yesterday, 07:48 AM
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Join Date: Oct 19, 2013
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Wrecking exports wrecks you local farmer
The soybean folks I know are all switching to corn next spring. All have had to go to their banks in late August. Some just plowed their bean crops under. The remaining issue is that most have to buy corn harvest heads for their combines and no one wants to buy a soybean head, or take a trade in. I've told the next door neighbor that I'd buy a bit of corn mash but that's all I can do unless he'd let me graze cattle on his land, but even that would be a huge revenue hit for him.
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Yesterday, 08:23 AM
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Some posters completely deny that Trump single handedly wrecked the soybean market for American farmers. He did it his 1st term......and now did it again.
The facts are the facts.
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Yesterday, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
Some posters completely deny that Trump single handedly wrecked the soybean market for American farmers. He did it his 1st term......and now did it again.
The facts are the facts.
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You posted a Democrat lie. China has been investing in South America for the 30 years mostly to get another source to buy soybeans.
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Yesterday, 10:23 AM
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You posted a Democrat lie. China has been investing in South America for the 30 years mostly to get another source to buy soybeans.
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Correct, and....
Can't blame them for doing that.
It's a global market. Someone thinks tgey can tell others what to do on the playground always ends up playing by themselves.
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Yesterday, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by farmstud60
You posted a Democrat lie. China has been investing in South America for the 30 years mostly to get another source to buy soybeans.
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As I said, Trump by himself wrecked the export market for American farmers......and driven
the Chinese to increase trade with Latin America. What part of that don't you understand ?
China has not purchased any U.S. soybeans since May, according to the American Soybean Association. Beijing has pivoted to suppliers in Brazil and Argentina.
How do you ever remotely come up with the idea of a Democrat lie ? Don't post again unless you are able post something that actually makes sense.
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Yesterday, 10:47 AM
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A lot more of Trump's supporters are going to resemble the meme with the dog in the burning house going "this is fine" as time goes on.
I honestly can't think of anyone I hate enough to elect someone to destroy the economy and our democracy. And I really hate some people, but I don't hate anyone enough, not even Trump himself, to want to harm myself just to spite them. No one at all.
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Yesterday, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jayjaychrome
A lot more of Trump's supporters are going to resemble the meme with the dog in the burning house going "this is fine" as time goes on.
I honestly can't think of anyone I hate enough to elect someone to destroy the economy and our democracy. And I really hate some people, but I don't hate anyone enough, not even Trump himself, to want to harm myself just to spite them. No one at all.
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Democrats destroy ag by rules and regulations .
Democrats destroyed Democracy in the last election.
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Yesterday, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by farmstud60
You posted a Democrat lie. China has been investing in South America for the 30 years mostly to get another source to buy soybeans.
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So, you have not answered tinys question:
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Originally Posted by VitaMan
Some posters completely deny that Trump single handedly wrecked the soybean market for American farmers. He did it his 1st term......and now did it again.
The facts are the facts.
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Is this the second time around donny pissed on the soybean farmers?
And followup question: if so, are those farmers good with it since you say they backed donny to the hilt?
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Yesterday, 08:47 PM
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Democrats destroy ag by rules and regulations .
Democrats destroyed Democracy in the last election.
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This has nothing to do with the topic.
It has nothing to do with anything.
Why did you even post it.
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