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09-16-2025, 09:46 AM
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50 years worth of numbers are in, and it's not even close...
Put together by Alex Nowrasteh, of the right-wing Cato Institute, complete with citations of all data, sources and methods... it's not even close. The right commits FAR MORE politically motivated murders than the left could ever dream of committing.
And, when I say it's not even close, I mean it's not even fucking close. Oh, and I repeat, all citations to data, sources and methods are there for the taking. Read 'em and weep...
https://x.com/AlexNowrasteh/status/1966955650115924209
p.s. It should be noted, once again, that the Cato Institute is a right-wing organization.
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09-16-2025, 09:56 AM
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Go through the comments. Graph is garbage. Keep making excuses and trying to justify killing Kirk, everyone knows where political violence lives.
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09-16-2025, 10:30 AM
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The graph is garbage because of the comments? Lol. Ok, bud. Yes, all the "experts" in the comments are qualified to debunk the Cato Institute's research.
The right commits 10x as many politically motivated murders than the left. dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh.
By the way, Kirk's killer was a far right-wing groyper. A disciple of white supremacist Nick Fuentes.
There was no trans gf, the messages on the bullet casings were speed gamer and anime references (nothing at all to do with leftist ideology), and he was raised by proud MAGA parents. Your entire narrative has been debunked.
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09-16-2025, 10:41 AM
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Here's more about the data, sources and methods used to compile this chart. Go ahead, tell me which parts you disagree with and why.
Prove Mr. Nowrasteh wrong.
https://www.alexnowrasteh.com/p/dead...vated-violence
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09-16-2025, 10:52 AM
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Fake data as fake data can be in post #1.
And btw, a quick ask of AI says you are wrong about Charlie’s murderer. But everybody already knew that, even you. Spin, spin, everybody spin!
Robinson was in a romantic relationship with his roommate, identified as a transgender individual (a male transitioning to female) in St. George, Utah.
The partner, who shared an apartment with him, has been described as "extremely cooperative" with the FBI and unaware of the shooting plans.
The apartment was partly owned by the partner's family, raising questions about their finances, but neither appeared to work full-time.
Inscriptions on the Bullet CasingsAt least four bullet casings from a Mauser 98 .30-06 bolt-action rifle (one fired, three unfired) found near the scene were engraved with eclectic, "extremely online" messages blending anti-fascist references, internet memes, and video game nods, rather than a structured political statement.
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox detailed them at a September 12 press conference; examples include:"Hey, fascist! Catch!" (direct anti-fascist taunt).
"Oh, Bella ciao" (lyrics from the Italian anti-fascist partisan song, popularized in media like Money Heist).
"Notices bulges, OwO, what's this?" (obscure furry/anime meme from mid-2010s online role-play, mocking anthropomorphic animal fantasies; "OwO" is a cat-like expression, possibly alluding to gender themes but not explicitly trans-related).
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09-16-2025, 11:05 AM
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Here in America, a "direct anti-fascist taunt" is a good thing. Ask the guys who stormed the beaches of Normandy about it sometime.
There was no trans gf. The photo these idiotic, far-right pundits are circulating was from a TikTok filter that could make anyone look like a female anime character. Sure, it's strange, but there was nothing at all transgender about it.
Unless cross-dressing is considered "trans" now? If so, JD Vance is a former trans. Ditto Giuliani.
Kirk's killer was a far right-wing groyper.
The right's entire narrative: DEBUNKED
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09-16-2025, 11:14 AM
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LMAO! You just can’t shake the denial. Everyone who knows the dude says he’s a leftist nutjob and packing fudge with his furry, wannabe tranny boyfriend. It’s hard to believe you guys are still trying to convince people of this ridiculousness, entertaining watching you squirm tho.
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09-16-2025, 11:28 AM
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Just to clarify: a "direct anti-fascist taunt" is a good thing, right?
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LMAO! You just can’t shake the denial. Everyone who knows the dude says he’s a leftist nutjob and packing fudge with his furry, wannabe tranny boyfriend.
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Where exactly are you getting this "information" from? Got a link?
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09-16-2025, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tommy156
Just to clarify: a "direct anti-fascist taunt" is a good thing, right?
Where exactly are you getting this "information" from? Got a link?
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It’s a story that fits their narrative. Doesn’t really matter if it’s true at this point.
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09-16-2025, 11:48 AM
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Just to clarify: a "direct anti-fascist taunt" is a good thing, right?
Where exactly are you getting this "information" from? Got a link?
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He’s dating a tranny. Gov Cox provided that info….which definitely provides motive. FWIW I don’t care. There’s plenty of conservative and liberal wackos to go around.
I read it in a Newsweek article.
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09-16-2025, 12:34 PM
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Goyper about to have 5 rounds in him.
Death penalty announced.
That's the reality to counter your fantasy.
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09-16-2025, 01:40 PM
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Goyper about to have 5 rounds in him.
Death penalty announced.
That's the reality to counter your fantasy.
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No, the charges were announced. Then comes the trial. Then the verdict. Then the sentencing. Gonna be a while until we find out if the death penalty will even come into play. Your jumping to conclusions fantasy notwithstanding.
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09-16-2025, 06:44 PM
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Gentlemen let’s get back on topic
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09-16-2025, 08:11 PM
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cato institute didnt do this research, this was a personal indepedent research. look at his sources.
he even writes to please let him know of errors or ommisions. CATO reports i dont think ask that
to what extent its flawed, I havent fully looked but within 30 minutes I found some already
elliot rodger killer of 6--- no history of being left or right
any affiliation with groups i can find on either side
his murders were because of a sheer hatred of women
due to ever being able to have relations. a twisted
fuck for sure but author of this seems to be pasting
him as right
diaz,alvin
Sampol, Guillermo both from cuba both listed as killing one each
three mistakes i spotted right away
1. there was a third suspect, Ignacio sampol, which he left out
2. their convictions were overturned for the murder thus they shouldnt even be listed
3. third he lists a murder beside each name, there was only one murder and in his own words the author said if there is multiple murderers for one fatality, it will be divided by that amount. so he should have listed each one with .5, not one. murder victim was Orlando Letelier
4. i actually cannot find anything targeting sampol or diaz as left or right either
bottom line if i can find flaws that quickly, im sure there are more. CATO reports wouldnt be so easy to find mistakes nor would they make them
i will note there are plenty on this list i agree with, this guy made mistakes
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09-16-2025, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy156
Here in America, a "direct anti-fascist taunt" is a good thing. Ask the guys who stormed the beaches of Normandy about it sometime.
There was no trans gf. The photo these idiotic, far-right pundits are circulating was from a TikTok filter that could make anyone look like a female anime character. Sure, it's strange, but there was nothing at all transgender about it.
Unless cross-dressing is considered "trans" now? If so, JD Vance is a former trans. Ditto Giuliani.
Kirk's killer was a far right-wing groyper.
The right's entire narrative: DEBUNKED
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Ummmmm.
No.
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