The party of Small Government sure seems to be liking Big Government

[onawbtngr546]

National guard being mobilized in almost 20 states. Gee, didn't you guys say that if Obama or Biden did this, it would be the end of the country?


trump withholding already approved CHIPS grants to Intel in order to blackmail them for 10% stake.
Gee, the part of small government really likes it when their small government starts to take control of private companies! That's called an oligarchy, class.


Did anyone own any intel stocks? How do you feel about the us government making your stocks with 10% less? They didn't 'buy' 10% of the open shares. They made more shares just for trump.


But I guess this post would really make some people upset, if they could comprehend it.

[tommy156]

Again, it's a cult. That's the explanation, and it really isn't any more complicated than that.

They all like big government now because Dear Leader. Of course, he could also take a shit in their mouth and they'd give his asshole a Michelin star.

These are not serious people who love America or respect the rule of law (fuck the Constitution, too). They want a particular brand of authoritarianism installed here, and as long as they are not personally harmed by it, the more the merrier.

[Jacuzzme]

How does giving guys in the NG something to do equate to expanding the government? Those guys are already government employees, they’d be training or doing some other busywork. Could make sense if they started recruiting for that specific purpose, but they haven’t.

[eyecu2]

I don't have a single problem with the NG or army doing good deeds for the public good. Nobody does logistics better than the Army. They should deploy during times of national disasters along with the NG who can keep law and order as well as getting relief to the areas that need it most. Why do we have all those resources and then keep them locked down when they could really be doing good for the ppl affected. I don't think they should be deployed without consent of congress, since an asshole like TRUMP could deploy without a reason, or with bad intent, but if you have some safeguards built it,- then fine.

Of course things like Army Corp of Engineers do a lot domestically but speaking specifically about times of disaster- not just civil unrest- those happen for a lot of reasons, and if ppl get physical or destroy shit- then yes, Im ok with those deployments too. Like in the west when stores were burned....likely needed more physical presence.

I know why people riot==in most cases, it's because they are not being heard or don't have a seat at the table or for racial tensions etc. But those emotional responses- don't have to be riots, they usually start out mild and go to wild when the police just hammer those they are told to keep in line by yet again - politicians.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

I don't have a single problem with the NG or army doing good deeds for the public good. Nobody does logistics better than the Army. They should deploy during times of national disasters along with the NG who can keep law and order as well as getting relief to the areas that need it most. Why do we have all those resources and then keep them locked down when they could really be doing good for the ppl affected. I don't think they should be deployed without consent of congress, since an asshole like TRUMP could deploy without a reason, or with bad intent, but if you have some safeguards built it,- then fine.

Of course things like Army Corp of Engineers do a lot domestically but speaking specifically about times of disaster- not just civil unrest- those happen for a lot of reasons, and if ppl get physical or destroy shit- then yes, Im ok with those deployments too. Like in the west when stores were burned....likely needed more physical presence.

I know why people riot==in most cases, it's because they are not being heard or don't have a seat at the table or for racial tensions etc. But those emotional responses- don't have to be riots, they usually start out mild and go to wild when the police just hammer those they are told to keep in line by yet again - politicians.

Because their leaders, the REAL leaders behind the money, like Soros, drive them with hateful rhetoric and propaganda that YT is bad, yes, YT is now the shorthand some use for white folks because its easier to spell.

They hire protesters, they brought in the bricks and signs and got the poor and stupid inner city Einsteins to burn down and loot their own neighborhoods again and again.

Burn down Wendys, because it hurts whitey, until your bady mommas need to feed their kids, but the can't because you looted the grocery stores and pharmacies too.

See also, how to make a woman beating, criminal drug addict, dying from an overdose a hero, for the entire world, statues, murals, when the world is far better off by his death.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

How does giving guys in the NG something to do equate to expanding the government? Those guys are already government employees, they’d be training or doing some other busywork. Could make sense if they started recruiting for that specific purpose, but they haven’t.

Exactly, nobody bitches when they are doing drills out here in the country, we were hunting in Cooks Forest and the Army was doing helicopter drills when my dad and I walked into a herd of deer, that other hunters started firing at, he pushed me to the ground hard, and fell next to me, while gunshots were ringing out around us.

Comepletely surreal.

I had a Vietnam flashback, and I was only there in movies.....


But let them train for inner city warfare, because that is WHAT the poor sheep in our inner city are dealing with.

I have no drone, but if I did, I could likely rig up some sort of IED to harm people from above if I wanted too.

How long till that happens in todays environment, and frankly, I'm surprised it hasn't happened.

But what they do have, is full auto Glocks, every time I see inner city arrests, half the time the perp has a machine gun, its very easy, and all you need is a 3d printer.

I don't think you truly understand just how well armed the bad guys are, or you wouldn't be caught dead in the city, until your found dead in the city.

[tommy156]

Nobody's hiring protesters. For fuck's sake 🤦🏻

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

How does giving guys in the NG something to do equate to expanding the government? Those guys are already government employees, they’d be training or doing some other busywork. Could make sense if they started recruiting for that specific purpose, but they haven’t.

Haven’t you ever heard the phrase "one weekend a month, two weeks a year".

It refers to the time commitment expected from members of the National Guard, indicating that they typically serve part-time while also having civilian jobs or education.

A member of the National Guard is considered a part time soldier and paid accordingly unless the military deploys them due to a national emergency or other emergency situation that may occur.

Politicians that abuse their “emergency” powers are treating their serving constituents as political pawns in the process of showcasing their conservative credentials.

What our conservative governors are doing kowtowing to Trump’s military theatrics is definitely outside the norm and possibly illegal unless Trump claims their deployment is legal under the insurrection act.

It also takes away funding from the military that should be being used for other purposes.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Haven’t you ever heard the phrase "one weekend a month, two weeks a year".

It refers to the time commitment expected from members of the National Guard, indicating that they typically serve part-time while also having civilian jobs or education.

A member of the National Guard is considered a part time soldier and paid accordingly unless the military deploys them due to a national emergency or other emergency situation that may occur.

Politicians that abuse their “emergency” powers are treating their serving constituents as political pawns in the process of showcasing their conservative credentials.

What our conservative governors are doing kowtowing to Trump’s military theatrics is definitely outside the norm and possibly illegal unless trump claims their deployment is legal under the insurrection act.

It also takes away funding from the military that should be being used for other purposes.

All excellent points.

My dad served in the NG for 30 years after a tour of Vietnam during the Tet Offensive. Part time, and paid accordingly. He was never deployed to frighten law abiding citizens, like they are today.

[Iceman]

One weekend a month, 2 weeks a year is the minimum required. They are eligible to be called to active duty at any time.

[HDGristle]

At a cost of $1 million per day for the DC efforts alone we need to ask why they want go perpetuate this there and expand elsewhere.

All while trying to cut the National Guard budget. And declaring "emergencies" to normalize using the NG for civilian LEO activities

Trump is stumbling and bumbling to undo the work of his predecessor... himself.

He's lambasted the COVID vaccine he fast-tracked. The USMCA deal he signed. His own former Treasury Secretary. His Fed Chair appointment. His own stimulus checks. He's using stats to declare emergencies despite them showing crime was higher under his prior admin. He's upset about the Biden debt despite all the Trump debt.

He's even taking actions that make Hildabeast and Cumala correct when they said what was to come that you boys said would never happen.

We should have seen this coming when he needed two hands to drink a small water. He's a small man trying to wield big powers. He's eroding freedoms. He wants to dictate your lives

[Jacuzzme]

Million a day to protect US citizens = bad

Billion a day funding wars that aren’t our business = good

[HDGristle]

Million a day to put American troops on the ground in America to police Americans vs security assistance that keeps our homeland safer by degrading the capabilities of our enemies abroad?

Easy choice, J. Even at a billion, which we're under in Ukraine while Trump has deployed in D.C. and is ready to deploy in Baltimore and Chicago. So the $1 million would go up. Makes the decision even easier.

You seem to love Big Government, including taking ownership stakes in businesses, when it suits you.

Will you turn down your social security when it's time?

[Jacuzzme]

It is an easy decision, on this we agree. Spend money on our own people and let Eastern Europe figure out their own problems.

[HDGristle]

We got to replenish a lot of things and put a lot of people to work spending abroad.

Instead, you choose the big government police state trampling on states and local. And you're going to take your socialist entitlement too.