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			10-30-2020, 11:12 AM
			
			
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				Higher numbers are not good it increases the odds of deaths, basic probability. 
			
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With 220,000 deaths on 20% of the USA population being infected so far, the survival rate is not 99.98%. If 70% of the USA population gets infected you will have over a 1 million deaths. To reach HERD immunity without a vaccine a too many people would end up dying.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2020, 11:34 AM
			
			
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			10-30-2020, 11:38 AM
			
			
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				I think if the vaccines are as effective as flu vaccines 30% it’s basically not gonna work. 
Higher numbers are not good it increases the odds of deaths, basic probability. (get what you are saying though) 
Thankfully the doctors are figuring out how to keep more alive. 
			
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So, if we cannot rely on a vaccine than what is the solution, lockdown forever?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Not explaining again it in another thread. 
6 weeks 
Summary: if the virus runs its course while in lockdown, it’s gone if you don’t let travel bring it back in. 
Those that will die... die, but our economy doesn’t suffer after it rebuilds. 
 
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			10-30-2020, 11:41 AM
			
			
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With 220,000 deaths on 20% of the USA population being infected so far, the survival rate is not 99.98%. If 70% of the USA population gets infected you will have over a 1 million deaths. To reach HERD immunity without a vaccine a too many people would end up dying. 
			
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the data we have so far isn't complete, and the positive vs dead rate isn't based off a properly representative cross-section of the  population, especially with a virus that has such a high visibly asymptomatic  probability based on the current data.
 
Basically a lot of it is still guessing.
 
My personal position is that we don't tell people what to do, let people decided what to do on their own property, and advise people who have compromised immune systems or those that simply fear catching it to stay cloistered. Those that want to go back to normal and accept the risk can do so.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2020, 11:42 AM
			
			
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				You would still be alive. To reach herd immunity you may not be the one who survives.    
			
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I'm more likely to be killed in a car crash every time I leave the house. Every day I exist it's a roll of the dice. People who live in fear never move forward.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2020, 11:46 AM
			
			
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				So, if we cannot rely on a vaccine than what is the solution, lockdown forever? 
			
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Partial lock down with masks, social distancing, etc until the Regeneron(the cocktail of antibodies that Trump got) and vaccine is ready distribution. Remdisvir( Trump got this as well)  has been approved by the FDA and is being used by the doctors for extreme cases. Remdisvir is not a cure though. Need the Regerneron and the vaccine before you can open things back up.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2020, 11:47 AM
			
			
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				the data we have so far isn't complete, and the positive vs dead rate isn't based off a properly representative cross-section of the  population, especially with a virus that has such a high visibly asymptomatic  probability based on the current data. 
 
Basically a lot of it is still guessing. 
 
My personal position is that we don't tell people what to do, let people decided what to do on their own property, and advise people who have compromised immune systems or those that simply fear catching it to stay cloistered. Those that want to go back to normal and accept the risk can do so. 
			
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And what happens if you get in a auto accident and there’s no hospital to take you to because everyone is doing what they want, ending up sick in the hospitals. 
You die  
Heart attack? 
You die 
Appendicitis? 
You die 
And you die in a tent city with a whole bunch of dumbfucks who felt like they can do whatever they want... fuck everyone else in the world.
 
Everyone overlooks the fact that your constitutional rights end where other peoples begin. 
Run into a theater and yell fire because that’s what you feel like doing. 
Guarantee you end up in jail for at least 6 months.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2020, 11:49 AM
			
			
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Your odds with dying from a car crash are a lot less that dying from CV19 if you to get infected.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2020, 11:50 AM
			
			
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				And what happens if you get in a auto accident and there’s no hospital to take you to because everyone is doing what they want, ending up sick in the hospitals. 
You die  
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I live alone, so It's fair odds that if I'm in a critical situation and can't call 911 myself, I'm dead. So I'm really not compelled by this.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-30-2020, 11:55 AM
			
			
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			This is why you are a selfish. 
I guarantee the second you start having problems breathing your ass will call. 
And if you are really not smart enough to... you will die. 
Everyone else seems to be able to get transport to a hospital. 
Maybe ask yourself why you wouldn’t be able to? 
Just about every story is the same, they’re sick, they start having problems, and they call an ambulance or have someone take them. 
Even Trump was smart enough to make it to a hospital. 
 
You want to live a life... but it doesn’t seem you are competent enough to do so without help.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				And what happens if you get in a auto accident and there’s no hospital to take you to because everyone is doing what they want, ending up sick in the hospitals. 
You die  
Heart attack? 
You die 
Appendicitis? 
You die 
And you die in a tent city with a whole bunch of dumbfucks who felt like they can do whatever they want... fuck everyone else in the world. 
 
 
Everyone overlooks the fact that your constitutional rights end where other peoples begin. 
Run into a theater and yell fire because that’s what you feel like doing. 
Guarantee you end up in jail for at least 6 months. 
			
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I think maybe before we continue the discussion further, that it may be good for me to establish that:
 
a.) I'm really not concerned with dying.
 
b.) I'm really not concerned with other people dying.
 
Maybe that can get us off the topic of trying to appeal this "life is precious" idea.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Well your life is definitely not precious... so why not just get to dying already? 
 
Ok you get in a car accident snap your spine and eviscerate your intestines on the highway. (It’s not gonna kill you for a couple days) 
How long do you wish to lie there suffering when there’s not an ambulance to pick you up because someone infected by a selfish piece of shit has called because they can’t breath, and they were smart enough to use a phone?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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