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			Originally Posted by  SpeedRacerXXX                                       
                 I will let elected politicians in this country decide what is the best way to go
I guess the authoritarian method has  constitutional issues...the leftwing politicians are the one who are drunk with power...YOUR PARTY SPEED!! About time someone brought the shit to a halt. The gumment that can give you everything and take everything away!!  Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision to allow the full   suspension of rights because some elected official declares a public   health emergency. It's the people of this country that make it great...not the gumment.
 The DOJ Throws the Gauntlet Down to Wannabe Local Tyrants Suppressing People’s Rights
 
  Posted at 10:15 pm on April 14, 2020 by  Bonchie 
    
Attorney  General William Barr speaks about the coronavirus in the James Brady  Briefing Room, Monday, March 23, 2020, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex  Brandon) 
This week, we’ve seen a culmination of various state and  local officials playing petty dictator in response to the Wuhan virus.  Whether it’s ticketing people for going to drive-in churches, which  doesn’t spread the virus in the least, or banning parents from buying  car seats, these politicians and police departments have decided they  have the power to suspend the Constitution at their whim.
  
My colleague Nick Arama wrote extensively about what Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is doing. Be sure to  check that out by clicking here. Just today, the Raleigh Police Department in North Carolina joined in on the stupidity.
    
Now,  the DOJ is throwing down the gauntlet, letting these wannabe tyrants  know that they can’t continue to arbitrarily target certain groups. 
 Here’s the full letter per Rep. Jim Jordan.
 https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/statu...ples-rights%2F
 This  is long overdue, though I understand why the DOJ needed to wait for  these people overstep before making this move. There’s no excuse to ban  religious services where people are staying in their cars or telling  people they can’t even go to another person’s house. I don’t care how  bad this virus gets, there are lines which simply shouldn’t be crossed.  Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision to allow the full  suspension of rights because some elected official declares a public  health emergency. 
While some say this is a temporary, necessary  evil, I say that’s foolish. These precedents won’t be going away if we  allow them to stand. The DOJ needs to come down hard on anyone violating  the rights of American citizens. Gov. Whitmer is at the top of that  list. Trading freedom for security is not a bargain Americans should  ever be willing to make. There are ways to socially distance and  mitigate the spread of the virus without taking a torch to our rights.  We should all be pushing for that result instead of tolerating these  tyrannical impulses from our representatives.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				...Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision to allow the full   suspension of rights because some elected official declares a public   health emergency.. 
			
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Seriously, are you saying that we have a right and duty to behave like responsible adults and be responsible for our own actions and that the government is supposed to work for the people to support that end?!? What's next, pursuit of happiness?? 
 
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				Originally Posted by  SpeedRacerXXX                                       
                 I will let elected politicians in this country decide what is the best way to go
I guess the authoritarian method has  constitutional issues...the leftwing politicians are the one who are drunk with power...YOUR PARTY SPEED!! About time someone brought the shit to a halt. The gumment that can give you everything and take everything away!!  Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision to allow the full   suspension of rights because some elected official declares a public   health emergency. It's the people of this country that make it great...not the gumment.
 The DOJ Throws the Gauntlet Down to Wannabe Local Tyrants Suppressing People’s Rights
 
  Posted at 10:15 pm on April 14, 2020 by  Bonchie 
    
Attorney  General William Barr speaks about the coronavirus in the James Brady  Briefing Room, Monday, March 23, 2020, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex  Brandon) 
This week, we’ve seen a culmination of various state and  local officials playing petty dictator in response to the Wuhan virus.  Whether it’s ticketing people for going to drive-in churches, which  doesn’t spread the virus in the least, or banning parents from buying  car seats, these politicians and police departments have decided they  have the power to suspend the Constitution at their whim.
  
My colleague Nick Arama wrote extensively about what Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is doing. Be sure to  check that out by clicking here. Just today, the Raleigh Police Department in North Carolina joined in on the stupidity.
    
Now,  the DOJ is throwing down the gauntlet, letting these wannabe tyrants  know that they can’t continue to arbitrarily target certain groups. 
 Here’s the full letter per Rep. Jim Jordan.
 https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/statu...ples-rights%2F
 This  is long overdue, though I understand why the DOJ needed to wait for  these people overstep before making this move. There’s no excuse to ban  religious services where people are staying in their cars or telling  people they can’t even go to another person’s house. I don’t care how  bad this virus gets, there are lines which simply shouldn’t be crossed.  Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision to allow the full  suspension of rights because some elected official declares a public  health emergency. 
While some say this is a temporary, necessary  evil, I say that’s foolish. These precedents won’t be going away if we  allow them to stand. The DOJ needs to come down hard on anyone violating  the rights of American citizens. Gov. Whitmer is at the top of that  list. Trading freedom for security is not a bargain Americans should  ever be willing to make. There are ways to socially distance and  mitigate the spread of the virus without taking a torch to our rights.  We should all be pushing for that result instead of tolerating these  tyrannical impulses from our representatives.  
			
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You live in Texas.  We have a Republican governor. One I voted for. 
 Texas announces shutdown amid coronavirus crisis 
 
Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott on Thursday issued an executive order that will close schools, restaurants, bars and gyms in an effort to stop the spread of the deadly coronavirus. 
 
Speaking to reporters from the state Capitol, Abbott said the order prohibits dining or eating at restaurants and bars, but “to go” orders are still permitted. He said that Texans must limit social gatherings to 10 people and may not visit nursing homes except for critical care. 
I can't go to the gym. I can't go to church. Grandkids can't go to school, either college or K-12. I can't get my haircut. In many cities masks must be worn. The inconvenience to my life is minor. I feel very sorry for those that are impacted financially.  
 
This is temporary.  A minority of the people in this country agree with you that the shut down should never have occurred. That Democrats  AND Republican leaders are overstepping their authority. Do nothing. Let the coronavirus run its course. 
74% of people in this country support the shutdown. 19% do not.  
I do. You do not.  Remember this in November 2022 when you vote for governor again. Who shut Texas down in 2020.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				From all accounts, the leadership in Texas is somewhere to the right of Atilla  the Hun, eh? 
			
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And yet is weathering the storm better than many states with leadership to the left of Atilla the Hun,  eh?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				You live in Texas.  We have a Republican governor. One I voted for.  
 
Texas announces shutdown amid coronavirus crisis 
 
Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott on Thursday issued an executive order that will close schools, restaurants, bars and gyms in an effort to stop the spread of the deadly coronavirus. 
 
Speaking to reporters from the state Capitol, Abbott said the order prohibits dining or eating at restaurants and bars, but “to go” orders are still permitted. He said that Texans must limit social gatherings to 10 people and may not visit nursing homes except for critical care. 
 
 
I can't go to the gym. I can't go to church. Grandkids can't go to school, either college or K-12. I can't get my haircut. In many cities masks must be worn. The inconvenience to my life is minor. I feel very sorry for those that are impacted financially.   
 
This is temporary.  A minority of the people in this country agree with you that the shut down should never have occurred. That Democrats AND Republican leaders are overstepping their authority. Do nothing. Let the coronavirus run its course. 
74% of people in this country support the shutdown. 19% do not.  
  I do. You do not.  Remember this in November 2022 when you vote for governor again. Who shut Texas down in 2020. 
			
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 Do you think 20 million people defaulting on their mortgages is a "minor inconvenience" to them, if you were like many people that relied on a steady pay check to survive and the gumment throwing 1200 buck to them is going to make a dent in their daily need the you're about as bright as I thought. Your in a position to not be affected by this disaster but the majority of people are hang by a thread.
 
 Small businesses which are the backbone of this economy are not going to be able to return to business...and you think that is a "minor inconvenience" to them. Your  arrogant pompous attitude shines bright because you are insulated from that being that you're retired...you have a guaranteed income but the the vast majority of the hard working Americans don't. You being a worshiper of big gumment and have no problem letting the gumment doing whatever they want in order to controlling peoples lives.    
 
  Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision to allow the full    suspension of rights because some elected official declares a public    health emergency. Please link the provision to that since your so good at posting links. You ignore this because it doesn't fit you big gummet control templet. It's the people of this country that make it  great...not the gumment. There are far to many sheeple  like yourself that when the gumment oversteps their powers you are in complete lock steep with them. They say jump and you say how high. Many brave people gave their lives to defending these freedoms and you are OK with the gumment over steeping the constitution for the "good" of the Americans.  
 
The damage this has done financially to this country far out weights the erroneous numbers of lives lost to this virus.  What is percentage of people they attribute to dying from this virus  did actually died  from this virus, because many that have died were purposely classified as this virus being the cause when it's coming out the many people didn't even have this virus that being done because it fits the hysteria that the gullible sheeple like you eat right up. In the end the number will be scaled way down for the made up number the gumment want you to believe and you being the gumment lover you are you will lap it right up. 
 
  You SPEED are insulated from the financial hardship of the million of working class that are the life blood that makes this country the greatest in the world, like your leader you love so much bullosey who has the same line as you...Trump don't you dare open up American and let it get prosperous again . It easy for people like yourself and bullosey to watch this country in a financial death spiral because if it gets rid of Trump and it will be worth it. There is a reason the DOJ is investigating this power grab...BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL..that pesky document SPEED.
 
 Just a little of the heavy handed tactics of you overreaching gumment if a didn't KNOW this was American I would swear it was stories of HITLER'S GESTAPO. 
 Please tell me how ANY of this is Constitutional ??
 
  
Here's How To Get Others to Follow Social Distancing Rules ... 
 
time.com › Health › COVID-19 
3 days ago - If Someone Is  Violating Social Distancing  Rules, What Do You Do? ... putting on the floor to show customers how to line up at a proper  distance. ... If you live in a state like Hawaii, where at least three people  have been arrested for flouting quarantine orders, ... How to  Make a DIY Face Mask for  Coronavirus.
  
To Enforce Social Distancing Rules, Cops Fined a ... 
 
reason.com › 2020/04/07 › to-enforce-social-distancing-rules-cops-fi... 
Apr 7, 2020 - They  make the site work better for you, and allow us to provide awesome free ... The key to stopping the spread of the  coronavirus, we' ve been told by public ... for  violating social distancing orders—technically, the  arrests were for ... gas prices falling to near record lows—while maintaining social  distance.
  
To enforce coronavirus distancing, police say arrests are last ... 
 
abcnews.go.com › Health › story 
Mar 31, 2020 - They said because he  was in  violation of Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan's emergency  coronavirus order, and it  was the second time police  had ...  arrests are not the way police would prefer to enforce the new  rules ...  have had a few instances of reminding people to socially  distance themselves from others.
  
Police are arresting and fining people for violating coronavirus ... 
 
www.cnn.com › 2020/03/31 › violating-coronavirus-orders-trnd
 
Apr 1, 2020 - Pastor  arrested for holding services despite stay-at-home order ... and festivals  have been delayed, and restaurants have moved to delivery or takeout only. ... recommendation to avoid mass gatherings and maintain  distance from others. ... In New York City, residents who  violate social distancing  rules face ...
  
Social distancing rule breakers, beware: Boston 'vigilantes ... 
 
www.bostonglobe.com › 2020/04/02 › metro › social-distancing-violato...
 
Apr 2, 2020 - In the age of  coronavirus,  activities once thought of as harmless are drawing looks of ... who are  fielding a surge of reports of supposed social distancing  violations. ... A few weeks ago these were all harmless, heartwarming activities. ... Damon  has been spotted out in the picturesque town of Dalkey, south of ...Missing: arrests | Must include:  arrests
 
NYPD Makes Arrests For Social Distance Violations As More ... 
 
gothamist.com › news › nypd-makes-arrests-social-distance-violations... 
Apr 3, 2020 - As  of Wednesday, 6498 officers of the NYPD have called out sick in  response to the ... more than 1500 NYPD employees have tested positive  for the novel  coronavirus. ... Please  make sure Gothamist remains on it with you. ... many individuals  have been fined or  arrested for  violating social distancing  rules.
  
Pastor arrested for violating rules amid virus outbreak 
 
apnews.com › ... 
Mar 30, 2020 - (AP) — Florida officials  have arrested the pastor of a megachurch after ... a safer-at-home order in place to limit the spread of the  coronavirus. ... He  was charged with unlawful assembly and  violation of a public health emergency order. ... enforced the six-foot  distance rule between family groups,  made sure ...
  
Florida's coronavirus stay-at-home order doesn't bar churches ... 
 
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			This coming from you HOE a guy that was prema-banned because of his vile behavior so you violated board rules that don't apply to you and come up with a new handle and keep spewing your vile nonsense. Your new  handle HOE didn't stop you from your derogatory statements about board members mothers you disagree with.  You shouldn't even be on this board YR. ALL your threads and posts are completely worthless nonsense. You're just like you buddy WTF...maybe you'll be joining him soon!!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Meh, closing had to occur because we got tossed into this mix-master  blind by Chi-i-i-i-na and WHO. Now we got eyes on and open based on  real, actual data from ourselves and the civilized world. OK, we got  arse porked. We can fix how we got here later. Open, open, open this  badass economy up. Fire that puppy up! 
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				...This is temporary.  A minority of the people in this country agree with you that the shut down should never have occurred. That Democrats AND Republican leaders are overstepping their authority. Do nothing. Let the coronavirus run its course. 
 
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				Do you think 20 million people defaulting on their mortgages is a "minor inconvenience" to them, if you were like many people that relied on a steady pay check to survive and the gumment throwing 1200 buck to them is going to make a dent in their daily need the you're about as bright as I thought. Your in a position to not be affected by this disaster but the majority of people are hang by a thread. 
 Small businesses which are the backbone of this economy are not going to be able to return to business...and you think that is a "minor inconvenience" to them. Your  arrogant pompous attitude shines bright because you are insulated from that being that you're retired...you have a guaranteed income but the the vast majority of the hard working Americans don't. You being a worshiper of big gumment and have no problem letting the gumment doing whatever they want in order to controlling peoples lives.    
 
  Nowhere in the Constitution is there a provision to allow the full    suspension of rights because some elected official declares a public    health emergency. Please link the provision to that since your so good at posting links. You ignore this because it doesn't fit you big gummet control templet. It's the people of this country that make it  great...not the gumment. There are far to many sheeple  like yourself that when the gumment oversteps their powers you are in complete lock steep with them. They say jump and you say how high. Many brave people gave their lives to defending these freedoms and you are OK with the gumment over steeping the constitution for the "good" of the Americans.  
 
The damage this has done financially to this country far out weights the erroneous numbers of lives lost to this virus.  What is percentage of people they attribute to dying from this virus  did actually died  from this virus, because many that have died were purposely classified as this virus being the cause when it's coming out the many people didn't even have this virus that being done because it fits the hysteria that the gullible sheeple like you eat right up. In the end the number will be scaled way down for the made up number the gumment want you to believe and you being the gumment lover you are you will lap it right up. 
 
  You SPEED are insulated from the financial hardship of the million of working class that are the life blood that makes this country the greatest in the world, like your leader you love so much bullosey who has the same line as you...Trump don't you dare open up American and let it get prosperous again . It easy for people like yourself and bullosey to watch this country in a financial death spiral because if it gets rid of Trump and it will be worth it. There is a reason the DOJ is investigating this power grab...BECAUSE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL..that pesky document SPEED.
 
 Just a little of the heavy handed tactics of you overreaching gumment if a didn't KNOW this was American I would swear it was stories of HITLER'S GESTAPO. 
 Please tell me how ANY of this is Constitutional ??
 
  
Here's How To Get Others to Follow Social Distancing Rules ... 
 
time.com › Health › COVID-19 
3 days ago - If Someone Is  Violating Social Distancing  Rules, What Do You Do? ... putting on the floor to show customers how to line up at a proper  distance. ... If you live in a state like Hawaii, where at least three people  have been arrested for flouting quarantine orders, ... How to  Make a DIY Face Mask for  Coronavirus.
  
To Enforce Social Distancing Rules, Cops Fined a ... 
 
reason.com › 2020/04/07 › to-enforce-social-distancing-rules-cops-fi... 
Apr 7, 2020 - They  make the site work better for you, and allow us to provide awesome free ... The key to stopping the spread of the  coronavirus, we' ve been told by public ... for  violating social distancing orders—technically, the  arrests were for ... gas prices falling to near record lows—while maintaining social  distance.
  
To enforce coronavirus distancing, police say arrests are last ... 
 
abcnews.go.com › Health › story 
Mar 31, 2020 - They said because he  was in  violation of Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan's emergency  coronavirus order, and it  was the second time police  had ...  arrests are not the way police would prefer to enforce the new  rules ...  have had a few instances of reminding people to socially  distance themselves from others.
  
Police are arresting and fining people for violating coronavirus ... 
 
www.cnn.com › 2020/03/31 › violating-coronavirus-orders-trnd
 
Apr 1, 2020 - Pastor  arrested for holding services despite stay-at-home order ... and festivals  have been delayed, and restaurants have moved to delivery or takeout only. ... recommendation to avoid mass gatherings and maintain  distance from others. ... In New York City, residents who  violate social distancing  rules face ...
  
Social distancing rule breakers, beware: Boston 'vigilantes ... 
 
www.bostonglobe.com › 2020/04/02 › metro › social-distancing-violato...
 
Apr 2, 2020 - In the age of  coronavirus,  activities once thought of as harmless are drawing looks of ... who are  fielding a surge of reports of supposed social distancing  violations. ... A few weeks ago these were all harmless, heartwarming activities. ... Damon  has been spotted out in the picturesque town of Dalkey, south of ...Missing: arrests | Must include:  arrests
 
NYPD Makes Arrests For Social Distance Violations As More ... 
 
gothamist.com › news › nypd-makes-arrests-social-distance-violations... 
Apr 3, 2020 - As  of Wednesday, 6498 officers of the NYPD have called out sick in  response to the ... more than 1500 NYPD employees have tested positive  for the novel  coronavirus. ... Please  make sure Gothamist remains on it with you. ... many individuals  have been fined or  arrested for  violating social distancing  rules.
  
Pastor arrested for violating rules amid virus outbreak 
 
apnews.com › ... 
Mar 30, 2020 - (AP) — Florida officials  have arrested the pastor of a megachurch after ... a safer-at-home order in place to limit the spread of the  coronavirus. ... He  was charged with unlawful assembly and  violation of a public health emergency order. ... enforced the six-foot  distance rule between family groups,  made sure ...
  
Florida's coronavirus stay-at-home order doesn't bar churches ... 
 
www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › church-vs-state-desantis-stay-...  
 
			
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Again, Trump supports the closing down of everything. Have you sent a copy of your post to him?  How about Governor Abbott?
 
I supported the decision of those who made it to close things down. They have the information that neither you nor I have and are entrusted to make the correct decisions. If you don't like Abbott's handling of the situation, vote him out of office when he comes up for reelecttion. Same with Trump. 
 
I will also support the decision of the governors and Trump to open things up again, when in fact it happens.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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Do you really think his ranting and raving gets to me?  I consider the source and get a good laugh out of it.
 
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