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				I already read Kings of Ukrainian Gas. It's where I found out about slidstvo.info, which is the source of much of their info about the purported Kolomoisky/Burisma connection.  I didn't find it convincing. 
			
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This is for information purposes and not intended to reignite this exchange. 
"Kings of Ukrainian Gas" was created by the Anti-Corruption Action Centre (AntAC).  Peter Schweizer cites this as a source for his book Secret Empires.  
 
Like you, I was unsure of the veracity of this sight; however, tonight I learned more about its pedigree. 
 
AntAC is a George Soros operation.  
 
George Soros managed to get funding from Odumbo's State Department for AntAC. 
 
As Odumbo's ambassador to Ukraine, Ambassador Yovanovitch, blocked a Ukrainian investigation into AntAC for misuse of funds.   
 
I find it highly ironic that Schweizer uses a Soro's operation to connect Hunter Biden to one of the most corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine --Igor Kolomoisky. Karma! 
 
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			10-12-2019, 11:30 PM
			
			
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				I didn't say entirely... you did. 
 
your spin once again... the top earners get a bigger cut because their share of the wealth pie has become astronomical the past few years. but their share of the tax cut was not ratable to the increase in their wealth, it is much greater, therefore making them even more wealthy, relative to the lower income scale earners. 
			
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Gimme a break. You're being incredibly lame. Drop the word "entirely" from my post if you think it matters. It doesn't.
 
Every time a dim-retard says "tax cut" they reflexively add the words "for the rich". That's the talking point. Today's dim-retards oppose any and ALL tax cuts because, to paraphrase Grover Norquist, they want to FEED THE BEAST (not starve it) and suck every dollar of the economy's income and resources out of private hands. As New York's Sandinista Mayor de Blowmeo put it, "there's plenty of money out there, it's just in the wrong hands". Is that your mantra too, chung?
 
The dim-retards weren't always this clueless. They actually introduced the original template for cutting taxes as a successful tool of fiscal policy. The 1964 JFK tax cuts were enacted under Democratic auspices (liberal economist Walter Heller was in charge of the Council of Economic Advisers for both JFK and LBJ) in what is viewed as the heyday of successful Keynesian "fine-tuning" macromanagement of the economy. Partly in response to the lower tax rates, the economy boomed from 1964-69.
 
Alas, today's dim-retards are Socialists, not Keynesians. They only know how to preach the politics of envy and demonize any and ALL tax cuts as a giveaway to the rich.
 
It's remarkable how badly the dim-retards have screwed themselves by pushing increasingly progressive tax schemes on us. They've made government more and more dependent for its revenues on a smaller and smaller slice of the population. This gives governments a perverse incentive to prefer MORE income inequality, not less. Think about it. If every marginal dollar of income earned by a rich fuck generates 35-50 cents in tax revenues, while the same dollar earned by a minimum wage worker may not be taxed at all, who do you think they want to see grow richer??
 
It also means high-tax states like New York and California are fiscally fucked every time there is a recession, because they are overly reliant on high earners for such a disproportionate share of their revenues. Look at the way their state budget deficits exploded during the 2008/09 recession. Their revenues plummeted much faster than their GDPs did. Yet these lib-retard states never learn. As soon as tax revenues start to recover, they spend every dollar that comes in and leave themselves fiscally even more vulnerable to the next recession.
 
You need to rethink your ideas about taxes and inequality, chung. Your old lib-retard tax-and-spend "solutions" ain't working.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2019, 02:39 AM
			
			
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				Thanks for the heads-up. I should think that as long as "we" don't discuss it, and the wacko one doesn't ask me to check my pm's, I'll be okay and take my chances with the moderators using their funny bone to judge. 
 
It's worth it. Gene Wilder was an incredible human being. The straight man to Richard Pryor's "wild man" in so many films was a formative influence on my own character. Funny knows funny. And, being a Jew, he empathized with Richard. The subtle bouncing off the outlandish. Both hysterical. 
			
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Check your PM's.
 
and you do know my handle is lifted directly from "Blazing Saddles" .. right?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2019, 06:07 AM
			
			
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				Riddle me this...Why has Pompeo lied about his involvement in the phone call and now admits he was on the phone?  It’s a cover up! 
			
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So in "Your World" anyone that lies is involved in a "cover up"?
 
Or is it just anyone in the Trump Administration?
 
(And I'm not agreeing that "Pompeo" ..... "lied"!)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2019, 09:42 AM
			
			
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				So in "Your World" anyone that lies is involved in a "cover up"? 
 
Or is it just anyone in the Trump Administration? 
 
(And I'm not agreeing that "Pompeo" ..... "lied"!) 
			
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I’m referring to the real world where the fat lying bastard is constantly spewing lies and his sycophants believe it’s the Libtards, Media, Democrats and of course Clinton who’s lying. You believe that bullshit because the IRA has been feeding you the deep state lies for years. 
 
My world is like the universe constantly expanding yours is imploding. Must suck to be you.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I’m referring to the real world where the fat lying bastard is constantly spewing lies and his sycophants believe it’s the Libtards, Media, Democrats and of course Clinton who’s lying. 
			
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			10-13-2019, 11:27 AM
			
			
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				And you're too lobotomized by your hyperpartisan handlers to notice they both lie. 
			
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How would Jax know .....? He's too busy blubbering ....
  
It's almost embarrassing for him .... but probably good to release all of that disappointing tension he has retained over THE YEARS!
 
2021 et seq are going to be destructive to what little gray matter he has retained between in his ears since 2016.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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This is your "real world" ... shorty.
  
And this is for you .....
  
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				 the top earners get a bigger cut because their share of the wealth pie has become astronomical the past few years. but their share of the tax cut was not ratable to the increase in their wealth, it is much greater, therefore making them even more wealthy, relative to the lower income scale earners. 
			
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It actually didn't turn out that way, if you're comparing the middle class to the wealthy. We've discussed this before, and I posted this, which includes a link to the tax tables before and after the tax cut:
 https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...post1061703497
There was a group of people who got no benefit or who actually pay more as a result of the tax "cuts", but they're certain upper income taxpayers.  Not the truly wealthy, but, for example, couples making from $315,000 to $600,000.  And some other upper income taxpayers, for example, some in high tax states who can't deduct as much of their state income taxes on their federal returns.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				It's remarkable how badly the dim-retards have screwed themselves by pushing increasingly progressive tax schemes on us. They've made government more and more dependent for its revenues on a smaller and smaller slice of the population. This gives governments a perverse incentive to prefer MORE income inequality, not less. Think about it. If every marginal dollar of income earned by a rich fuck generates 35-50 cents in tax revenues, while the same dollar earned by a minimum wage worker may not be taxed at all, who do you think they want to see grow richer?? 
			
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I wouldn't have called Democrats dim-retards, but this is a fascinating idea, something I'd never thought about, a huge drawback to our having the most progressive income tax system in the developed world.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				This is your "real world" ... shorty.! 
			
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What’s your major malfunction, are you mentally delayed. Is that a requirement for acceptance into the trump party? 
 
You don’t agree with the majority of the Americans who want to see this shit through to the end no matter what the outcome will be, you don’t like it...planes leave this country twenty four hours a day, buy a ticket.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			There is no impeachment and there won’t be a trial, so there’s nothing to see through.  Keep living the fairytale though, Nervous Nancy is counting on it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				There is no impeachment and there won’t be a trial, so there’s nothing to see through.  Keep living the fairytale though, Nervous Nancy is counting on it. 
			
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You can continue to ignore reality until the day the trial begins if you choose.
 
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