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			Both sides of the  media answers are always one or more of several responses Or they are pushing the story in that direction. 
Its Hysterics 
Its some kind of phobia  
Its rage /Haters  
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			11-07-2018, 09:30 AM
			
			
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			Did you read the stories posted by LL? 
 
Do agree with them? 
 
Did you read the assessment of his source? 
 
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			11-07-2018, 09:39 AM
			
			
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				I asked you first. 
			
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Just as I figured... after I answered your question, you ignore mine. That's how you roll.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-07-2018, 09:44 AM
			
			
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				Just as I figured... after I answered your question, you ignore mine. That's how you roll. 
			
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Attacking me isn’t going to help you, LL.  That’s how you roll too. 
 
Drop the pettiness and explain why you twice quoted a confirmed extreme hate blog as fact,
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-07-2018, 11:55 AM
			
			
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				I think you have defeated Mr. Rider on this point. He should concede, just like Andrew Gillum honorably conceded in Florida!!! 
			
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Yes he should, but he doesn't have it in him to concede. Instead, he doubles down.
 
Just look at his latest posts - he responds to an article exposing the phony liberal hate groups who falsely masqueraded as "Pittsburgh Jewish leaders" by calling the author a hater!
 
Not sure what irks yssup so much about Dan Greenfield. His intellectual brilliance? His unflagging support for the Jewish state? His deep and defining Jewishness? His constant skewering of liberal and media hypocrisy? His insistence that anti-Semitism must be opposed in ALL of its manifestations, not just when it suits the left to oppose it? His ability to support his arguments with specific facts and evidence, instead of hiding behind lame, drive-by generalizations?
 
The answer is - all of the above and more!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-07-2018, 12:55 PM
			
			
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				Did you read the stories posted by LL? 
 
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Did you read the assessment of his source? 
 
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Damn fucking right I do.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-07-2018, 12:57 PM
			
			
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				Can the anti-Semitic comments, fellas. 
 
Not a single one of you have explained why the Jewish Leaders in Pittsburgh are ungrateful as the OP states. 
 
All I see is an outpouring of extreme right wing propaganda by a confirmed hate blog.   
 
Df has taken it yet another step by agreeing with yet another racially charged piece of provocation. 
 
It’s tired fellas.  Leave it alone. 
			
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I have never posted an anti-Semitic comment in my life and you know it.
 
I feel free to criticize the leaders when they are wrong. It would be unAmerican to allow assholes to say stupid shit and not be opposed.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-07-2018, 01:06 PM
			
			
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			Exactly.  That’s what I do here every day, ff.   
 
Do you speak out against xenophobia and racism when it’s posted by others? 
 
If so then I applaud you.  If not then why not? 
 
And as far as the rest of your post goes, that’s a matter of opinion. 
 
Do you agree with the OP that the leaders of the Pittsburgh Jewish Community were “ungrateful?”
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-07-2018, 01:45 PM
			
			
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				Do you agree with the OP that the leaders of the Pittsburgh Jewish Community were “ungrateful?” 
			
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Asked and answered. Three times. See my posts #34, 68 and 117.
 
Please do not make me repeat myself again.
 
Asked and still NOT answered:
 
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				What does your "source" research tell you about the far-left, anti-Trump hatefest organizers, If Not Now? Greenfield calls it a "marginal hate group, animated by its animosity to the Jewish State and to Jewishness". Do you agree? 
			
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			11-07-2018, 02:54 PM
			
			
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			OK, bro, let's look at your responses: 
 
Post #34 -- An equivocation and you "woofed" 
Post #68 -- A reference to your equivocation and "woof." 
Post #117 -- Dodge 
 
You did not answer the question. 
 
So apparently you believe that the Jewish leaders of Pittsburgh were ungrateful for the, what, insensitive grandstanding that Trump did the day the funerals began and before when he complained about how it took the spotlight away from his caravan?   
 
I read your posts again. 
 
You didn't answer the question.   
 
And I stand against all hate groups. AND FEAR PROPAGANDA.   
 
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			11-08-2018, 12:02 AM
			
			
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				Can the anti-Semitic comments, fellas. 
 
Not a single one of you have explained why the Jewish Leaders in Pittsburgh are ungrateful as the OP states. 
 
All I see is an outpouring of extreme right wing propaganda by a confirmed hate blog.   
 
Df has taken it yet another step by agreeing with yet another racially charged piece of provocation. 
 
It’s tired fellas.  Leave it alone. 
			
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It was not a racial piece considering that it was written by a jewish author who knows a thing or two on the way Jewry should be practiced and he is right about left wing jews. 
 
 (I'm not familiar with jewish customs)  He criticizes the  jews there for not conducting a traditional ceremony for those killed in the attack.
 Many non-Orthodox synagogues sat shiva -- Judaism's seven days of  mourning after the death of an immediate relative -- when Donald Trump  was elected president. This perversion of Judaism is an example of what  leftism does to every religion it infiltrates. I suspect none of those  synagogues sat shiva after the murder of 11 Jews in Pittsburgh. Why? Did  the election of Donald Trump bother them more? Left-wing Jews are  ethnically Jewish, but their values derive from leftism (just as the  current pope is Catholic in his identity but his values derive from  leftism)
the Pittsburgh thing is from a small group of left wing jews who don't like Trump.  They don't like Trump period!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-08-2018, 12:52 PM
			
			
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			FYI -- synagogues do not sit shiva.  Families do. 
And your suggestion that it's not a racist piece because it was written by a Jewish writer is, in itself a racist argument.  
 
I hope you understand why it could be considered as such.
 
This might help.
 https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...estFriendsAreX
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-08-2018, 01:47 PM
			
			
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				And your suggestion that it's not a racist piece because it was written by a Jewish writer is, in itself a racist argument. 
			
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Is Judaism a race? Dear me, I thought it was a religion. Is it not open to adherents of all races and colors?
 
Would it be racist for someone to ridicule Ivanka Trump for being Jewish?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-08-2018, 02:01 PM
			
			
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				Is Judaism a race? Dear me, I thought it was a religion. Is it not open to adherents of all races and colors? 
 
Would it be racist for someone to ridicule Ivanka Trump for being Jewish? 
			
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Dear me, that is a conundrum, LL.  In fact, I’ve answered the first question numerous times over the years.  Please don’t make me answer it again...
 
But if you really care, here’s my take. 
 
It is considered by many a race, a religion and a nationality. 
 
Confused by most non-Jewish people, especially those who equate Judiaism with Zionism or those who equate race with skin color.  
 
Ridiculing Ivanka for BEING Jewish is racist.   
 
Ridiculing Ivanka for BECOMING Jewish may not be.  
 
Ridiculing Ivanka for MARRYING a piece of shit goniff mamser like Jarred Kushner is totally OK in my book.  
 
What is YOUR take?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-08-2018, 02:07 PM
			
			
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			My "take" is Isaac and Ishmael were brothers. 
 
And I have no idea what a goniff mamser is. If I called you that would you rtm me?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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