My Position on Marriage

[IIFFOFRDB]

[IIFFOFRDB]

[DSK]

Originally Posted by eatfibo

You want the government to define it the way you want, in a way that would deny equality your fellow Americans, for no good reason at all other than what amounts to nothing more than "I don't like it."


You are absolutely controlling people by telling them that their relationship does not deserve the same rights and benefits as a hetero couple.

How does it cheapen it? How has the institution of marriage been harmed? Saying "it's changed" doesn't make this case, at all. The courts, rightfully, recognize this as a failed argument.

The institution of marriage, mentioned for thousands of years in literature as between a man and a woman, when properly carried out by a man and a woman, can be of benefit to society by producing happy, well adjusted children born to their biological parents, or also adoptees. Demeaning it with two cocksucking faggots imitating it reduces its importance and cheapens it to a mere contractual arrangement, not a sacred bond between a man and a woman.

I am not controlling anyone by telling them their faggoty little trysts do not constitute a marriage.

[Guest042616-1]

Originally Posted by DSK

The institution of marriage, mentioned for thousands of years in literature as between a man and a woman, when properly carried out by a man and a woman, can be of benefit to society by producing happy, well adjusted children born to their biological parents, or also adoptees.

Demeaning it with two cocksucking faggots imitating it reduces its importance and cheapens it to a mere contractual arrangement, not a sacred bond between a man and a woman.

How so? How does two gay people getting married change, in anyway, two straight people getting married? Just because you perceive harm doesn't mean it exists.

I am not controlling anyone by telling them their faggoty little trysts do not constitute a marriage.

Agreed. The problem is that you don't stop at telling them that, but attempt to justify denying their relationships the equal rights they deserve under our constitution.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by eatfibo

How so? How does two gay people getting married change, in anyway, two straight people getting married? Just because you perceive harm doesn't mean it exists.


Agreed. The problem is that you don't stop at telling them that, but attempt to justify denying their relationships the equal rights they deserve under our constitution.

Under our constitution, it was never contemplated that two men might want to marry. It is not a right, men cannot marry other men and it be a marriage - it is something else, only a man and a woman can constitute a marriage.

Call it something else but don't change thousands of years of history

I've already explained the harm, you choose to ignore it.

Gay men have equal rights under the constitution to all rights in the constitution, which mentions nothing about gay marriage. It is a false "right" that cannot be artificially imposed upon society.

Are you gay? If not, why fight for this artificial right for them? For the most part, I doubt they really want to marry - I'm sure they see no point to it beyond irritating straight people, and possibly extracting benefits from the government and corporations.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

And this is relevant to JL's take on marriage in what way?

Typical SLOBBRIN Tourette's post.

[CuteOldGuy]

Where in the Constitution does it give the government the authority to define marriage? That is not the the job of government at any level. How does it hurt you, DSK, if two or more men and/or women form a relationship and call it "marriage"? Why do you want to control their lives, if they are all legal, consenting adults? It doesn't involve you. Butt the fuck out! (No pun intended. Sorry if you got excited, Assup).

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Are you outing eatfido?

[Yssup Rider]

What a hypocrite you are Whiny.

[Guest042616-1]

Originally Posted by DSK

Under our constitution, it was never contemplated that two men might want to marry. It is not a right, men cannot marry other men and it be a marriage - it is something else, only a man and a woman can constitute a marriage.

Well, this is patently wrong because it is happening right now.

I've already explained the harm, you choose to ignore it.

No, you've made some vague claims about it "cheapening" it, but nothing to support why it is cheapening it. The reality is that two men getting married has absolutely no bearing on the relationship between a woman and a man getting married. The courts recognize this, and I think you do too, which is why you don't (or can't) answer the question.

Gay men have equal rights under the constitution to all rights in the constitution, which mentions nothing about gay marriage. It is a false "right" that cannot be artificially imposed upon society.

One of the rights guaranteed in the constitution is equal protection of the laws. Considering the courts have ruled that marriage is an right, the laws cannot discriminate against people because they are gay.

Are you gay? If not, why fight for this artificial right for them? For the most part, I doubt they really want to marry - I'm sure they see no point to it beyond irritating straight people, and possibly extracting benefits from the government and corporations.

Because it isn't an artificial right that my fellow Americans have equal protection under the law. And I don't need to "fight" for it any more: it is the law of the land. I'm just pointing out why your arguments have long since been debunked.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by eatfibo

Well, this is patently wrong because it is happening right now.


No, you've made some vague claims about it "cheapening" it, but nothing to support why it is cheapening it. The reality is that two men getting married has absolutely no bearing on the relationship between a woman and a man getting married. The courts recognize this, and I think you do too, which is why you don't (or can't) answer the question.


One of the rights guaranteed in the constitution is equal protection of the laws. Considering the courts have ruled that marriage is an right, the laws cannot discriminate against people because they are gay.


Because it isn't an artificial right that my fellow Americans have equal protection under the law. And I don't need to "fight" for it any more: it is the law of the land. I'm just pointing out why your arguments have long since been debunked.

Asked and answered on every point.

I'll just say this - if you gay people would express your freedom more openly in public, the backlash would be considerable. Go for it!!!

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

What a hypocrite you are Whiny.

How so, Assup? Or are you just blowing shit without support again?

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by DSK

Asked and answered on every point.

I'll just say this - if you gay people would express your freedom more openly in public, the backlash would be considerable. Go for it!!!

'splain that to EKIM and Lil Cotex, 'bout them " coming out " !!! Bueno suerte !