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		|  08-27-2015, 12:09 PM | #1 |  
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			Has anyone considered losing the hobby phone & using only PMs for communication? 
 With smart phones, you can go to the corner of 1st & Main street, send a pm & then the girl can PM you right back with the rest of the directions.
 
 Other than not everyone having a smartphone, whats the down side?
 
 You initiate contact through ECCIE,  why not keep it all there?
 
 Delete your browsing history afterwards. No Hobby phone to get busted with or Unwanted/Untimely calls.
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		|  08-27-2015, 12:13 PM | #2 |  
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			I have worked via PM's before one day when I left my phone at home...used my tablet and hotspot to connect.  It was a little awkward but worked.
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		|  08-27-2015, 12:47 PM | #3 |  
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			I have found PMs to be rather slow at times
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		|  08-27-2015, 12:49 PM | #4 |  
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			I agree; it would be nice to have even less exposure, but, to be honest, I think that would be harder on the provider and it's hard enough to get a response as it is.
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		|  08-27-2015, 12:59 PM | #5 |  
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			It would have to ding (make a noise) or it might take forever for the lady to read it.
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		|  08-27-2015, 01:05 PM | #6 |  
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			I'll tell you why - the ashley madison hack.
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		|  08-27-2015, 01:09 PM | #7 |  
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			Also, a few of us (Elisabeth raises her hand) require hearing a guy's voice before meeting.  So that wouldn't work for me.
 Plus, at my current incall, it's a tad tricky to get to my place.  The street has a funny shape.  A phone is imperative for me.
 
 A lot of my guys use google voice for the phone, though.  They seem to love it.
 
 I tried it a few times, didn't like it for daily business needs.
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		|  08-27-2015, 01:33 PM | #8 |  
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			I read the first post and thought "good idea".. you guys shot it down fast, LOL..
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		|  08-27-2015, 01:56 PM | #9 |  
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			The Downside of PMs: PMs are often delayed 5 to 60 minutes or more.
 PMs are stored and maintained (for example, backed up) on eccie server hard drives and can be reviewed or searched by mods or their superiors if requested by one of the parties to the PM.
 
 It's not clear if deleted PMs are completely deleted and unretrievable at a later time by the eccie webmaster or other eccie technogeeks.
 
 Actually, I dont remember reading that there is any enforceable expectation of privacy in an eccie PM. They are called private messages and under normal operating conditions seem to be private......but:
 
 In years past, I have seen Eccie hacked by *************** leaving PMs, chat conversations and ROS writings made searchable on the Internet.   In fact, I think some remnants may still be out there, but I am not sure.
 
 To learn more Google: "the truth about **********"  there is blog post as recent as Feb 19, 2015 discussing the potential return of ***************  There are also twitter feeds associated with it that you can follow.
 
 It appears eccie is aware of hackers and does want to protect its site and members against hackers, but in the words of Forest Gump, "Shit Happens."
 
 Go ahead and use the PM system for all hobby related contact and conversations if you want to.  Just be aware of the potential risks.
 
 By the way, have you Googled your handle with the word "eccie" next to it lately?  Seriously, for example Google "eccie [yourhandle]"  But you probably already know about the search results right?  And, hey, it's a handle and not a real name. So you are as safe as your handle (or your IP address, or something.....hmmmmm.) Try just searching your handle alone.  If your handle is unusual, there may be some interesting search results.
 
 On the other hand:
 Texts rarely are delayed more than a minute.
 Texting is more secure and private.
 Texts have protections that make them very hard for anyone to monitor, except the government under "certain" circumstances.
 
 I would venture to say that emails, depending how you set them up, use them and delete them, are much safer than eccie PMs.
 
 Hey, it's your hobby.  Do what is best for your situation.
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		|  08-27-2015, 01:58 PM | #10 |  
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			I totally understand wanting to hear a real voice first, Elizabeth. However, I know alot of girls also get tired of random calls by horny clients. I have been contacted more than once by providers trying to get some business. PM first to authorize calling/texting.
 May I ask after PMing with a guy, how many have you turned down afterwards, based on the phone conversation? I would think if they are well mannered through PMs they would also be over the phone, no?
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		|  08-27-2015, 02:00 PM | #11 |  
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			Wow!  That is a first for me.  I had an automatic computer generated edit of my post.  I guess certain words are never allowed to be posted....
 Mods, I had no idea.  I am just trying to help others be safe.  Please have mercy.
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		|  08-27-2015, 02:36 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Invisible1  The Downside of PMs: PMs are often delayed 5 to 60 minutes or more.
 PMs are stored and maintained (for example, backed up) on eccie server hard drives and can be reviewed or searched by mods or their superiors if requested by one of the parties to the PM.
 
 It's not clear if deleted PMs are completely deleted and unretrievable at a later time by the eccie webmaster or other eccie technogeeks.
 
 Actually, I dont remember reading that there is any enforceable expectation of privacy in an eccie PM. They are called private messages and under normal operating conditions seem to be private......but:
 
 In years past, I have seen Eccie hacked by *************** leaving PMs, chat conversations and ROS writings made searchable on the Internet.   In fact, I think some remnants may still be out there, but I am not sure.
 
 To learn more Google: "the truth about **********"  there is blog post as recent as Feb 19, 2015 discussing the potential return of ***************  There are also twitter feeds associated with it that you can follow.
 
 It appears eccie is aware of hackers and does want to protect its site and members against hackers, but in the words of Forest Gump, "Shit Happens."
 
 Go ahead and use the PM system for all hobby related contact and conversations if you want to.  Just be aware of the potential risks.
 
 By the way, have you Googled your handle with the word "eccie" next to it lately?  Seriously, for example Google "eccie [yourhandle]"  But you probably already know about the search results right?  And, hey, it's a handle and not a real name. So you are as safe as your handle (or your IP address, or something.....hmmmmm.) Try just searching your handle alone.  If your handle is unusual, there may be some interesting search results.
 
 On the other hand:
 Texts rarely are delayed more than a minute.
 Texting is more secure and private.
 Texts have protections that make them very hard for anyone to monitor, except the government under "certain" circumstances.
 
 I would venture to say that emails, depending how you set them up, use them and delete them, are much safer than eccie PMs.
 
 Hey, it's your hobby.  Do what is best for your situation.
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		|  08-27-2015, 02:50 PM | #13 |  
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			And you can't argue with that.
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		|  08-27-2015, 02:59 PM | #14 |  
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			I have had appointments  before solely  thru PM only cause I knew him already or we been planning  ahead for few days and he was well verified. And like some of you guys I have my pm's delayed for hours or even days! I go and check and see I missed several pm's!  I do love text  lol
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		|  08-27-2015, 03:27 PM | #15 |  
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			I got to admit before I had a damn throw away and I was just amping it was a hell of a lot easier
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