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		|  02-15-2015, 12:35 PM | #76 |  
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	I totally respect that. Boundaries are great! For some reason I look at "the hobby" as a service orientated business. Almost like a waiter or waitress. I tip 15% if the service is poor but they don't pill anything on me. 20% if its obvious they are making sure "I" / "WE" are enjoying ourselves. and 30-40% if they take things to a new level like have my car out front waiting for me. Making sure I always have a drink in front of me and when I need something all I need do is look up and they come a running. Going to the same places helps develop these relationships and makes for a much more enjoyable dinning experience. At least that's how it works for me. I guess I carry that over to the hobby as well.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by dookiexp  Interesting Topic
 I personally do not haggle. I have asked if a provider is running a review special but that is the closest thing to haggling i do.
 
 I see more providers than I write reviews, so i see it as giving a little back to write one and I'm not stupid and do not expect huge discounts.
 
 I however did find the following part of your original post interesting:
 
 
 
 I do not gift or try to become overly social with providers. This is not because I'm cheap or a bastard, I have total respect for providers. Its a conscious choice I make to create clear separation. This world to me is a business transaction, Im paying for a service, I expect good service and pay more than enough for said service.
 
 Gifts and becoming to social opens the door in my mind for providers to take advantage. I get that I may loose out on extras, I may not create a deeper connection with a provider and getting free time goes out the window, but I'm fine with that. Im happy if the lady is polite, welcoming, looks & performs service as advertised and I'm given the time I paid for.
 
 Lucky for me plenty of providers offer the above and I leave happy!
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		|  02-15-2015, 12:52 PM | #77 |  
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	I'm thinking....several guys give gifts, candy chocolate, flowers (Bad idea flowers) and I have been doing the "gifts" thing even before I did the T-Shirt thing. I brought a gift(s) even before I did the T-Shirt thang. But I just brought the stuff in a plastic bag as if I just bought the items at the store. I decided to move and when I did I found hundreds of very large gift bags in my closet I did not know were there. (Ex-wife) So I decided to start using those. Once I used up what worked because of the size I needed, I started just buying them from Wally World. $2.75 each in Pink or Hot pick. These days I put my camera and LIL SL right in with the gifts. So to answer your question I guess I just realized bring gifts in a plastic bag was cheezey. 
 
FYI: The first two years I didn't do -Shirts it was just gifts. The T-Shirt thing got started when I decided to "TOUR" then it just got popular with the ladies so I kept it going. It was ALWAYS wine which most of the time "we" enjoyed as part of the session along with other secret gifts. I always do HOURS very seldom half unless something went wrong.This is my 6th year of hobbying. (Full Time! LOL)Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Toyz  Hey Uncle,
 Where did you get the "Gift Bag" Idea? You were the "TShirt Guy" for the first 2 years...who convinced you that a gift bag was a good idea?
 
 {{{Toyz launches Mr Peabodies "Way Back" Machine}}}
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		|  02-17-2015, 04:23 PM | #78 |  
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			I see nothing wrong with negotiating a better price as long as its a win win for both of us.  I usually do this with providers who want to charge an extra 50-100 just to do an outcall.  It's just greedy to be charging someone that much to do an outcall.
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		|  02-17-2015, 04:41 PM | #79 |  
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					Originally Posted by Still Looking  I'm thinking....several guys give gifts, candy chocolate, flowers (Bad idea flowers) and I have been doing the "gifts" thing even before I did the T-Shirt thing. I brought a gift(s) even before I did the T-Shirt thang. But I just brought the stuff in a plastic bag as if I just bought the items at the store. I decided to move and when I did I found hundreds of very large gift bags in my closet I did not know were there. (Ex-wife) So I decided to start using those. Once I used up what worked because of the size I needed, I started just buying them from Wally World. $2.75 each in Pink or Hot pick. These days I put my camera and LIL SL right in with the gifts. So to answer your question I guess I just realized bring gifts in a plastic bag was cheezey. 
 FYI: The first two years I didn't do -Shirts it was just gifts. The T-Shirt thing got started when I decided to "TOUR" then it just got popular with the ladies so I kept it going. It was ALWAYS wine which most of the time "we" enjoyed as part of the session along with other secret gifts. I always do HOURS very seldom half unless something went wrong.This is my 6th year of hobbying. (Full Time! LOL)
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I feel like I'm talking to the woman writing Penthouse Forums.     
So, what wine have you found that 18 year olds like the most?  I always score with the younger ones by bringing a 44 ounce cherry limeade from Sonic & some cheese tots.....
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		|  02-17-2015, 07:08 PM | #80 |  
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		|  02-17-2015, 07:29 PM | #81 |  
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					Originally Posted by Toyz  I feel like I'm talking to the woman writing Penthouse Forums.     
So, what wine have you found that 18 year olds like the most?  I always score with the younger ones by bringing a 44 ounce cherry limeade from Sonic & some cheese tots..... |  
Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill!
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		|  02-17-2015, 07:38 PM | #82 |  
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					Originally Posted by Claire She Blows  Boone's Farm Strawberry Hill! |  
Well....it does have a screw top...makes sense when you break it down closely.
 
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		|  02-17-2015, 09:18 PM | #83 |  
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That was a great high school drink.....two bottles for $5.  Can't beat it!  Girls used to love it.......
 
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		|  02-18-2015, 12:07 AM | #84 |  
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					Originally Posted by sifupsi  That was a great high school drink.....two bottles for $5.  Can't beat it!  Girls used to love it.......
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What a Cheap Skate!
 
Mogen David Concord Wine
 
Like Grape Juice!  
 
About $3 a bottle!
 
Great with Bacon and Eggs in the morning!
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			Ladies love Champagne.... that's all I got say about that.
 
 OPEC friendly equivalent:
 
White wine with a slash of club soda |  
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		|  02-18-2015, 08:23 PM | #88 |  
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			Nobody in the Raspberry Ripple camp?
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					Originally Posted by Precious_b  Nobody in the Raspberry Ripple camp? |  
LMAO!  There is a memory......   
 
The Bandera Road Drive in the summer of 1974
 
I was not quite 17.  My GF was not quite 18 and was trashed after consuming a couple of bottle of Ripple.......  Sitting next to me in the front seat of her LeSabre playing with her Graduation Tassle  hanging from a rear view with her miniskirt hiked to her waist and a boob outside her blouse.....
 
That was the night I decided I never wanted anything to do with a drunk woman.....
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					Originally Posted by Whispers  LMAO! There is a memory...... 
 The Bandera Road Drive in the summer of 1974
 
 I was not quite 17. My GF was not quite 18 and was trashed after consuming a couple of bottle of Ripple....... Sitting next to me in the front seat of her LeSabre playing with her Graduation Tassle hanging from a rear view with her miniskirt hiked to her waist and a boob outside her blouse.....
 
 That was the night I decided I never wanted anything to do with a drunk woman.....
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