OH SHIT!!! Even Chicago Tribune says Obamacare is a Shit Law and Obama is acting like a Communist!

[therock18]

The CBO projects that under Obamacare over the next decade, the number of uninsured will never fall below 30 million. Here are the year-by-year projections from the report:

2013 - 55,000,000
2014 - 44,000,000
2015 - 37,000,000
2016 - 31,000,000
2017 - 30,000,000
2018 - 30,000,000
2019 - 30,000,000
2020 - 30,000,000
2021 - 31,000,000
2022 - 31,000,000
2023 - 31,000,000

Despite Obamacare’s mix of requirements, mandates, subsidies, and penalties, the CBO projects that the law will never be able to decrease the number of uninsured below 11 percent of the population. During the decade projected by the CBO, the percentage of uninsured nonelderly persons decreases from 20 percent in 2013 to 11 percent by 2016, but then remains there for the rest of the ten year period. Not everything in the CBO report is similarly static, however. The "Average Exchange Subsidy per Subsidized Enrollee" increases 50 percent over the same time period, rising from $5,290 in 2014 to $7,900 in 2023.

[therock18]

The CBO projects that under Obamacare over the next decade, the number of uninsured will never fall below 30 million. Here are the year-by-year projections from the report:

2013 - 55,000,000
2014 - 44,000,000
2015 - 37,000,000
2016 - 31,000,000
2017 - 30,000,000
2018 - 30,000,000
2019 - 30,000,000
2020 - 30,000,000
2021 - 31,000,000
2022 - 31,000,000
2023 - 31,000,000

Despite Obamacare’s mix of requirements, mandates, subsidies, and penalties, the CBO projects that the law will never be able to decrease the number of uninsured below 11 percent of the population. During the decade projected by the CBO, the percentage of uninsured nonelderly persons decreases from 20 percent in 2013 to 11 percent by 2016, but then remains there for the rest of the ten year period. Not everything in the CBO report is similarly static, however. The "Average Exchange Subsidy per Subsidized Enrollee" increases 50 percent over the same time period, rising from $5,290 in 2014 to $7,900 in 2023.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by WTF

Then why the fuck are you shutting down government? Why didn't you dumb shits just let it fail?

Actions show your true fears. You fear it will be a success.

all you heard from the dumbshits was " shut down the government" .... the government shuts down ... now all the dumbshits do is bitch because the government is shut down

[therock18]

DAMN YOU ARE STUPID!

CONSERVATIVES DID NOT SHUT DOWN GOVERNMENT THE LIBTARDS AND DUMBAMA DID.

BILLS WOULD PASS TO FUND GOVERNMENT AND HARRY REID REFUSED TO HOLD A VOTE.

HOUSE PASSED OVER 46 BILLS AND REID REFUSES TO BRING ONE TO THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE.

SO I GUESS WHEN OBAMA PUTS HIS DICK UP YOUR ASS AND TELLING YOU HE IS NOT FUCKING YOU - YOU BELIEVE IT.

STUPID LIBTARD!

Originally Posted by WTF

Then why the fuck are you shutting down government? Why didn't you dumb shits just let it fail?

Actions show your true fears. You fear it will be a success.

[therock18]

ONLY PEOPLE BITCHING ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT BEING SHUT DOWN IS LIBTARDS!

LIBTARDS GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SPEND MONEY TO SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT LIKE CLOSING OPEN AIR MEMORIALS. LIBTARDS IN ACTION.

GLAD GOVERNMENT IS SHUTDOWN. SHOWS HOW BIG IT IS AND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CUT DOWN. IT SHOULD STOP FRAUD, WASTE, AND ABUSE BUT LIBTARDS ARE SPENDING MONEY AND FUCKING THINGS UP AS USUAL!

Originally Posted by CJ7

all you heard from the dumbshits was " shut down the government" .... the government shuts down ... now all the dumbshits do is bitch because the government is shut down

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Memo to Dr. Carson, only 15% of the population will be on Obamacare the other 85% will get their health insurance where they work. At the Obama insurance exchanges the premiums that are paid will be going to health insurance companies like Blue Cross, Humana and Atena they are not going to the government. Let me get this straight, giving affordable health insurance to self employed plumbers and carpenters is almost as bad as slavery? Dr Carson please stay in the medical field and don't run for public office. You may go home with less delegates than Ron Paul did.

Memo to you, 15% of the population would be roughly 47 million people. At the current rate of account creation on the exchanges it would take 78 years to sign up all that you are predicting. And that is if every one of them that created an account actually bought insurance. Yep, it is he who knows nothing of which he speaks.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by therock18

ONLY PEOPLE BITCHING ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT BEING SHUT DOWN IS LIBTARDS!

LIBTARDS GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SPEND MONEY TO SHUTDOWN THE GOVERNMENT LIKE CLOSING OPEN AIR MEMORIALS. LIBTARDS IN ACTION.

GLAD GOVERNMENT IS SHUTDOWN. SHOWS HOW BIG IT IS AND THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CUT DOWN. IT SHOULD STOP FRAUD, WASTE, AND ABUSE BUT LIBTARDS ARE SPENDING MONEY AND FUCKING THINGS UP AS USUAL!

fuck you and your big red font littleboy ... the asswipe righties had a stroke when an open air monument was closed to visitors

[therock18]

Buffett: Scrap Obamacare and Start All Over

When asked, "Are you in favor of scrapping [Obamacare] and going back to start over?", famed investor Warren Buffett said on CNBC March 1, 2010, "I would be — if I were President Obama.”

Buffett insisted that without changes to America's health system average citizens will suffer.

"We have a health system that, in terms of costs, is really out of control," he added. "And if you take this line and you project what has been happening into the future, we will get less and less competitive. So we need something else."

Three debate-ridden years later, millions of Americans still agree.

But now that the exchanges are open, Obamacare has finally kicked off.

The government program, which some economists call the biggest tax increase ever in the United States, is also one of the most hated bills in history.

Ask millions of Americans what they think about the new law, and chances are they're ready to pop a jugular.

Critics heavily oppose the mandate requiring them to purchase health insurance. They're also furious at all the new taxes, fees, and higher premiums they'll be stuck paying, thanks to Obamacare.

Yet, while millions of Americans loathe every facet of The Affordable Care Act, as it's officially titled, another group of Americans see it as a once-in-a lifetime opportunity to get rich: Investors.

With the implementation of Obamacare quickly approaching, Americans are asking what they can do to prepare for all the new costs and rules.

One expert, Betsy McCaughey, former Lieutenant Governor of New York and constitutional scholar with a Ph.D. from Columbia University, recently wrote a best-selling book showing Americans how they can survive Obamacare.

McCaughey is one of the only people in the country -- including members of Congress - who has actually read the entire 2,572 page law.

Her book, titled Beating Obamacare: Your Handbook for Surviving the New Health Care Law breaks down the complicated bill into 168 pages of actionable advice.

The book, written in an easy going, easy to read style, shows some startling facts about Obamacare not seen in the mainstream press.

For example, she points to a little known passage in the bill that shows how you could get slapped with a $2,000 fine for not having health insurance - even if you do actually have it.

She also goes into detail explaining how one third of all U.S. employers could stop offering health insurance to their workers.

In one chapter, she shows how ordinary Americans will get stuck paying for substance abuse coverage even if they never touched a drink or drug in their life.

According to McCaughey's research, senior citizens will get hit the hardest. "If you're a senior or a baby boomer, expect less care than in the past," she says. "Hip and knee replacements and cataract surgery will be especially hard to get from Medicare in the months ahead."

She warns seniors to get some of those types of procedures done now before Obamacare goes into full effect.


In addition, many will find it difficult to keep their medical records private, according to McCaughey.


"The law will compel Americans to share with millions of strangers who are not physicians confidential private and personal medical history information they do not wish to share."

[therock18]

YOU JUST PROVED MY POINT. LIBTARDS HAD TO SPEND MONEY TO CLOSE OPEN AIR MEMORIALS. THEY DID SO BECAUSE THEY KNEW 92 YR OLD VETS WERE GOING TO SHOW UP TO THE MEMORIAL!

THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN WHEN CLINTON WAS IN OFFICE AND THE GOV'T SHUT DOWN.

LIBTARDS DECIDED TO SPEND MONEY WHILE THE GOV'T WAS SHUT DOWN TO CLOSE SOMETHING THAT WAS OPEN AIR.

HOW FUCKING STUPID IS THAT?

OH, YEAH - LIBTARDS PASSED OBAMACARE.

Originally Posted by CJ7

fuck you and your big red font littleboy ... the asswipe righties had a stroke when an open air monument was closed to visitors

[CJ7]

have fun talking to yourself fucktard

[therock18]

The numbers are finally out for Obamacare premiums and they look expensive. From Forbes (emphasis added):

“Based on a Manhattan Institute analysis of the HHS numbers, Obamacare will increase underlying insurance rates for younger men by an average of 97 to 99 percent, and for younger women by an average of 55 to 62 percent. Worst off is North Carolina, which will see individual-market rates triple for women, and quadruple for men.”

Young men in Nebraska will see the largest increase in their premiums, up 279 percent, for the bronze level plan. Young women in Nebraska will also see the largest increase, up 227 percent.


Some costs are even higher for 40-year-olds. In North Carolina, a 40-year-old man could see an increase of 305 percent and 288 percent in Nebraska. A 40-year-old woman will face increases over 200 percent in both North Carolina and Nebraska as well.
In dollar costs, the state with the lowest weighted average premium with the ACA is Minnesota at $144 and the highest weighted average premium is Wyoming $425.
But the bottom line from Avik Roy: Obamacare makes insurance more expensive.

“For months, we’ve heard about how Obamacare’s trillions in health care subsidies were going to save America from rate shock. It’s not true. If you shop for coverage on your own, you’re likely to see your rates go up, even after accounting for the impact of pre-existing conditions, even after accounting for the impact of subsidies.”

You can find the new premium rates for the 36 states on the federal exchange here.

[therock18]

The numbers are finally out for Obamacare premiums and they look expensive. From Forbes (emphasis added):

“Based on a Manhattan Institute analysis of the HHS numbers, Obamacare will increase underlying insurance rates for younger men by an average of 97 to 99 percent, and for younger women by an average of 55 to 62 percent. Worst off is North Carolina, which will see individual-market rates triple for women, and quadruple for men.”

Young men in Nebraska will see the largest increase in their premiums, up 279 percent, for the bronze level plan. Young women in Nebraska will also see the largest increase, up 227 percent.


Some costs are even higher for 40-year-olds. In North Carolina, a 40-year-old man could see an increase of 305 percent and 288 percent in Nebraska. A 40-year-old woman will face increases over 200 percent in both North Carolina and Nebraska as well.
In dollar costs, the state with the lowest weighted average premium with the ACA is Minnesota at $144 and the highest weighted average premium is Wyoming $425.
But the bottom line from Avik Roy: Obamacare makes insurance more expensive.

“For months, we’ve heard about how Obamacare’s trillions in health care subsidies were going to save America from rate shock. It’s not true. If you shop for coverage on your own, you’re likely to see your rates go up, even after accounting for the impact of pre-existing conditions, even after accounting for the impact of subsidies.”

You can find the new premium rates for the 36 states on the federal exchange here.

[therock18]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx2scvIFGjE

[Seedy]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Please explain yourself, seedy. I need to know why my responses are both pathetic and typical.

Seems like you ought to be on the slow boat to Syria...

Well here it is sup, why do all you libtards attack a conservative black man, that has achieved greatness on his own hard work, and witbout obama phones, food stamps, and welfare checks?

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by WTF

Then why the fuck are you shutting down government? Why didn't you dumb shits just let it fail?

Actions show your true fears. You fear it will be a success.

I am not shutting down the government and don't belong to any party that is, either repub or dem, depending on how you perceive it.

Obamacare won't effect me one way or the other on a personal level. I love watching dems, their leaders, and their programs fail just as equally as watching the repubs, their leaders, and their programs fail. Not that I enjoy the poor getting poorer in both cases, but there is always a way to make money off of both party's failed programs. That's why they fail, politicians love money more than they love you.