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Sophie Sparks · 10-10-2013, 01:32 AM

Ok I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I've only been doing this for a few months, and I usually don't do overnights, just because I can't really sleep unless I'm at home and I end up staring at the ceiling until I feel like it's been sufficient time and wake the guy up, usually after hes had 3 or 4 hours sleep, not fun for either party. But this guy's in from out of town. seems nice, and thats what he wants, a companion, all night, on a weekend night, Sat eve to Sunday around noon...
So my question is: what is a reasonable donation for an 16 hour date? I request 250 an hour, 200 for eccie members, which he's not.
So, anyone wanna give me some ballpark numbers????
I dont wanna rape the dude but I know I could make a grand in that time period easily, but that'd be alot more work, plus this guy's taking me out, and I'm not exactly a cheap date, so I wanna be fair, but I really need to capitalize right now.....so let's hear some numbers. I already informed him it was gonna cost him.

Pflugerbill · 10-10-2013, 08:52 AM

I think you could charge about $25,397.56. You have to account for insomnia, TCB time and cost, discretionary research on his likes and dislikes, go shopping for the right clothes including crotchless panties, time to sign up for Obamacare, brushing up on wine lists, getting your nails done, getting your hair done, laser for the private areas, finding the right shoes, and finally considering just the right fragrance of perfume.

You also have to consider traffic, hotel accommodations, the drought, time to sign up for Obamacare, rain this weekend and the accompany humidity, the UT loss to OU, and the economy.

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Originally Posted by Sophie Sparks

Ok I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I've only been doing this for a few months, and I usually don't do overnights, just because I can't really sleep unless I'm at home and I end up staring at the ceiling until I feel like it's been sufficient time and wake the guy up, usually after hes had 3 or 4 hours sleep, not fun for either party. But this guy's in from out of town. seems nice, and thats what he wants, a companion, all night, on a weekend night, Sat eve to Sunday around noon...
So my question is: what is a reasonable donation for an 16 hour date? I request 250 an hour, 200 for eccie members, which he's not.
So, anyone wanna give me some ballpark numbers????
I dont wanna rape the dude but I know I could make a grand in that time period easily, but that'd be alot more work, plus this guy's taking me out, and I'm not exactly a cheap date, so I wanna be fair, but I really need to capitalize right now.....so let's hear some numbers. I already informed him it was gonna cost him.

Luvdatpuddy · 10-10-2013, 09:12 AM

I typically have never asked about overnights myself (maybe someday, if I find an ATF), but I remember seeing some gals posting rates of about $1500. I remember thinking, though...for that much, she had better be an energizer freakin' bunny that is also porn-star dirty. But then, I always think (or hope) for that, so it may not be really relevant. You may really be able to go higher, given the duration. Maybe to keep it from "sticker" shock (I was originally thinking $2k), you might throw out $1800 as a number.

fun2come · 10-10-2013, 09:22 AM

You "dont wanna rape the dude" ? Then why again does he want to see you???

On that premise I would ask him how much it is worth to him to NOT get raped all night by you.

Loxly · 10-10-2013, 09:46 AM

From what I've seen in the past the 1500-1800 is probably ok. Just make certain about what he expects so outline your boundaries. You can always come down if he balks at 1800 (he might already have a "reserve tip") in mind.

Disclaimer: I've never done an overnight.

Suggestion: Next time you get pics done try doing one with you holding Sparklers... LOL

JohnnyYanks · 10-10-2013, 09:48 AM

What value ought be assigned to acquiring a customer who has the taste, and finances, for an overnight? It seems to me that any attempt to "maximize" your date is a failure if you do not secure this gent's repeat business.

Don't be penny wise and pound foolish. Be generous with your time, your passion and your rate. This may prove to be a very wise investment in your business.

Whispers · 10-10-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sophie Sparks

Ok I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask,

It wasn't.

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Originally Posted by Sophie Sparks

but I've only been doing this for a few months, and I usually don't do overnights, just because I can't really sleep unless I'm at home and I end up staring at the ceiling until I feel like it's been sufficient time and wake the guy up, usually after hes had 3 or 4 hours sleep, not fun for either party. But this guy's in from out of town. seems nice, and thats what he wants, a companion, all night, on a weekend night, Sat eve to Sunday around noon...
So my question is: what is a reasonable donation for an 16 hour date? I request 250 an hour, 200 for eccie members, which he's not.

You know that how? THOUSANDS of lurkers that never post. MANY of us NEVER tell a lady we see that we are members here.

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Originally Posted by Sophie Sparks

So, anyone wanna give me some ballpark numbers????
I dont wanna rape the dude but I know I could make a grand in that time period easily, but that'd be alot more work, plus this guy's taking me out, and I'm not exactly a cheap date, so I wanna be fair,

So the time frame COULD earn you $1000 doing more work.... but doing him makes for a nice night on the town with less work as well as less risk....and a potential long term client. Seems like $1,000 is the right answer for the reasons you just stated and presented to him that way should get you some appreciation.

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Originally Posted by Sophie Sparks

but I really need to capitalize right now.....so let's hear some numbers. I already informed him it was gonna cost him.

Referencing my first comment that this was not the place to post this question..... Considering that each and every time you post something in public view you are presenting yourself to hundreds of prospective clients you just showed a very realistic side of yourself as a provider that some guys around here do not easily come to terms with.

Greed

All this guy is to you is an ATM primed for a withdrawal...... Not a potential long term , repeat client interested in enjoying your time and companionship in more than just a down and dirty moment like most of your other clients.

There are some very smart Providers in the mix that understand the potential for these types of opportunities.... Maybe in time you will join them

If the dude is reading this.... Hit Perfect 10 late afternoon and look around for a thin blonde ... late 20s...... $500 will get you a very interesting gal (and a freak in the sheets) for the time frame you want..... PM me for her name....

Annef · 10-10-2013, 01:55 PM

Oh come on whispers, that's a little harsh. I can agree that this was not the right forum. this guy might be a little offended if he reads this in coed. Probably should have posted this in the women's infoshare. But I don't necessarily see her trying to figure out what is the best use of her time in terms of money and activities to be greedy. She's hardly using him as an ATM. She's selling her time and company; he knows that. Fifteen hours for $1500 is a $100 an hour, that's $150 off an hour, how would that be unfair to him? Cost price analysis (or lack thereof) aside, the figure that popped into my head was $1200, that's what I normally do for anywhere between 10-15 hours. I have no idea why any woman would do agree to spend that sort of time for $500. That seems to be greedy on the part of the gentlemen, not wanting to pay a woman fairly for her time. Feeling used can go both ways. It has been my experience that letting yourself get taken advantage of does not necessarily lead to a repeat client, or the sort of repeat business that you want.

I do get what you are saying about sleeping with someone though. It's almost more intimate than having sex with someone. I have a client I have done a couple of overnights with in New Orleans (1200/each time), and he is lovely. I enjoy his company. But, he is one of those all over the bed sleepers. I always wake up in the middle of the night with his arm across my face

. Hard to sleep, definitely!

Whispers · 10-10-2013, 02:23 PM

Take the emotion out of the thought process and think about it from a business standpoint and it is not harsh. It is practical sound advice.

My price suggestion was based on what she said she would normally earn in the same time frame.

Forget the "per hour time and companionship comparison" you ladies are getting paid to fuck and suck.

She could do 4 appointments.. have to deal with getting ready for each, travel, risk etc.... Deal with her night disrupted.... still have to find time to shit and shower in there.... feed herself two meals.... etc....

Those 4 appointments are normally going to be her "performing" in a variety of ways vs being wined and dined (she admitted to being an expensive date in that manner) and probably having a session before going to sleep and another in the morning..... Less actual "work"..... Not too many guys plan on staying up all night for a marathon of sex,,,,

So she can make the same money, have an enjoyable evening out on the town and perform less making the same money as well as probably investing in a potential long term client.

Her post is about her wanting to "capitalize" on the situation. Her post is about money.

This is a typical problem many businesses have when presented with opportunity. They fail to properly look at long term gain in building better relations and loyalty with customers.

Something she probably damaged with her post in this forum.

Guest010218 · 10-10-2013, 02:38 PM

Whispers--I fully agree with your situational assessment and advise.

Both Hobbyists and Providers need to think in terms of establishing sound professional relationships with one another (assuming there is good chemistry), and not to be so focused on getting big bucks out of a client, or getting 10 mins of free time from a provider.

Thank you for your timely and informative post--hopefully she will take your sound advise.

BB

mrhamm · 10-10-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophie Sparks

I dont wanna rape the dude but I know I could make a grand in that time period easily, but that'd be alot more work, plus this guy's taking me out, and I'm not exactly a cheap date, so I wanna be fair, but I really need to capitalize right now.....so let's hear some numbers.

How much would you legitimately make on a Saturday evening through a Sunday at noon? Is he going to keep you up all night and will your entire Sunday afternoon be recovery time because he kept you up all night? If so, make sure you also count for your Sunday night time.

It sounds like $1000 is good ball park. If you would normally only make $800 between Saturday evening and Sunday at noon, that would be your minimum. Chances are, you don't stay up all night on Saturday into Sunday morning (or do you?) so you wouldn't make much money then anyway.

Tell him to post a review here for a $25 discount no matter what you charge him!

19Trees · 10-10-2013, 08:27 PM

$500 plus $100 per pop, plus tip.

Low enough to get him to commit, with high likelihood that the overnite date nets >$800.

Quote $1000 he might balk. Or not. But $500+++ sounds and feels better than $1000.

If you have not gone BCD with him before, consider including $250 walk away option in case there isn't sufficient chemistry or comfort-level. Many providers avoid overnights with unfamiliar Johns for obvious reasons.

19Trees

3Jacklover · 10-10-2013, 08:44 PM

Whisper, I agree with $1k. Really, I could make more.. If so
you wouldn't start this topic. She gets $$$$ probably have to do him 2-3 at max.
I guess Obamacare has everybody losing there mind.

Dorian Gray · 10-10-2013, 09:00 PM

You might be better off asking the ladies in InfoShare or the PowderRoom

ck1942 · 10-10-2013, 09:13 PM

Sophie, since you confess you have been doing this only a few months, my counsel:

-- make sure the gent is triple vouched - and you must contact those vouchers by first checking to make sure they are legit

-- have him give you a precis of what to expect during the date

-- if this is a very short notice fling, consider that it may not even be legit, but

-- ask him what he expects to donate and also ask him how many times he has done this before.

Not asking this with direct reference to any of gents who have reviewed you or who have played with you once or twice or even more, but

How many of those gents would you consider "fair game" for an overnight.

Zero need for you to reply to my above, but urging you to think about it before making any commitment to someone you have not as yet met in person.

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Perhaps it would be more fun if you offered to bring a gal pal along, at a reasonable rate for each of you of course, and thus you might have someone to chat with during the long hours awake.