List of NOT Reference friendly providers..

[Candi Staxx]

Mods Is this "legal" here or could it be a good idea?

Its very frustrating trying to screen, with so many girls that just plain dont give references. I always do a little homework, just to make sure there is nothing on a girls profile indicating how she wants to be contacted for references. Always of course I label the subject in my messages as reference check, if its on here definitely look to see the message was confirmed. We all seem to usually be helpful to each others, some just seem to really not care. Even more aggravating is the ones who make it a point to claim to be reference friendly, but then wont even acknowledge requests. Some providers are just known not to..most here do and are always more than helpful with them (for the most part we have a great community here!) But there's almost just as many who just straight ignore the requests altogether! Why cant (we providers) have a list so we know which ones to not even waste typing to? I can understand if this is'nt a good idea, but hoping we could maybe utilize it. Of course in the ladies infoshare forum, not for everyone to see.



Also for my Gentlemen,
I know there's only so much you guys can do, but I think its always good to ask a provider if they are reference friendly. I try to make a point to tell anyone when they are departing that I am, and my favored way for others to contact me for a reference. Even though yes most of us are, I would suggest and ask that when using ladies as references, you have already asked whomever to vouch for you. I understand you guys can only do too much, but if you not knowingly give a name of a girl you've seen who does'nt give references, then obviously it not only delays meeting, but sometimes can even "spook" us out (thinking it was possibly fake info) or causing you even to think your getting blown off.
Either way, it can lead to difficulties for sure.
Thanks for listening, please let me know any thoughts anyone..

[Precious_b]

It's a necessary evil and I hate to ask it.

But I think it should be posted in the Powder Room.

I have seen what happens when a Provider calls out another on the boards. Even when they are respect it. Feel it should be done in the Womens forums.

[Candi Staxx]

Oh and no absolutely on that part, this is Not something to be done like that, hence why I pointed that out in the end of my first paragraph =) That'd be a mess! Just fishing to see if its been done or would work.

I posted this in coed to see everyones input on the subject as whole and the idea of it, but also to very importantly remind guys that just because they have seen a provider, does not mean that provider is, will or can be used for a reference and its helpful for them and us both, to make sure the names they give will even help.

[NikkiWhite]

Candi I agree with u! There are a few girls that are constantly used as refs that I never hear back from and like u I always label the subject ref check or similar.

I personally return ref checks before I even deal with my own appointment requests because I would hate for a provider and her client to miss out because of me!

Maybe start a yahoo group for us ref friendly pros to compare notes on the not so helpful ladies?

[Candi Staxx]

That could work..

The point is definitely not to "out" fellow providers. Every girl has their own reasons for doing anything they do, whether its right or wrong, and they have that choice. Obviously more to help those of us who do screen. I remember in past forums about screening Ive even read a few girls who will admit "I do not give references". Again thats their choice regardless! But how many times have any of you ladies just straight never heard back anything from a reference check or two, and you decided passing on seeing a new friend because of that?

Even right now I have several Gentlemen in "limbo" with screening, simply because I have not heard back from their references, I cant and wont do anything til they are verified. I feel bad because Im sure several if not all of them are probally ok, but still not risking it.

[Guardian_1874]

Yup, I agree with Ms. Staxx... My recent providers offered to give me references.... Now they aren't available for contact... I've been trying to see Ms. Staxx above but... No dice and I totally understand.

[Doglegg]

Knowing if a potential hostess is reference friendly is a big deal to me.

If the potential hostess does not normally provide references, then she doesn't need my business, because as little as I hobby, I need the reference.

A good provider also plays well with the rest of the ladies.

Referencing is good manners. Good manners helps to build and maintain a good community.

Dogg

[Guest111113]

Just curious what are some of the reasons a provider won't reference?

[Guest112113-3]

Originally Posted by Mr.pipe

Just curious what are some of the reasons a provider won't reference?

1. Lazy
2. Money not hers
3. She has already made money off the Client and doesn't expect to see a return
4. Jealous

Seems that P411 has this covered really in the most part, am I missing something here?

[Samcro84]

Originally Posted by Woody of TX

Seems that P411 has this covered really in the most part, am I missing something here?

Man the quote works great got instructions from mod today.

I have never been asked for a reference, now do they see my posts or the fact that I send a PM from p411.

Interesting topic Candi

[Guest101618]

I think I should have the right to know which providers are going to be useless as a reference in the future. It would affect my choices significantly. References are an essential part of the hobby. If I have paid for time with a provider, then she won't provide a reference for me (good or bad) then I feel ripped off. If I didn't have enough responsive references to see someone like Candi I would be inclined to ask her who she knows will respond to reference checks so I can choose wisely.

I'm not on P411 any more because I had issues getting some of the ladies to even bother with acknowledging our session in that system. Of course this could all be because none of the ladies want to give a positive reference for me.

Which leads me back to meeting most of my companions before scheduling socially so we can see if there is even any reason to go through the trouble of attempting screening.

Candi, good topic and one that has been on my mind. If I had more hobby funds and were looking to branch outside my circle of known companions then I would be more worked up about it.

[Guest081519]

Candi,

Lists are always problematic on the board. Some things to think about:

• Who will maintain and update the list.
• What criteria must be met in order to be placed on the list.
• What criteria must be met to be removed from the list.
• How can a lady dispute to remove herself from the list (especially if someone is UTR and does not wish to leave a footprint).

It has been my experience that lists have a tendency to bring more problems than they solve. As some members suggested, I too suggest placing it in the lady only forums (if you wish to start one here).

Personally, I recommend in starting a Yahoo group where like-minded individuals may join and share and contribute accordingly.

[flinde]

I find the jealousy thing to be a reference issue. Seems like once a gal gets a small piece of flinde, they don't want to share.

[Guest061815-1]

Originally Posted by flinde

Seems like once a gal gets a small piece of flinde, they don't want to share.

I think "a taste of flinde" rather than "a small piece" would be a better way to put it. Just lookin' out for ya, bro.

[Keyzer Soze]

Originally Posted by Woody of TX

1. Lazy
2. Money not hers
3. She has already made money off the Client and doesn't expect to see a return
4. Jealous

Seems that P411 has this covered really in the most part, am I missing something here?

This topic came up recently with a well known and high in demand lady. She felt that some ladies become possessive and feel their clients are theirs and not to be shared with others, and of course jealousy.