CBS 11 investigative report on 3 days of P4P stings in Tarrant County

[TinMan]

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/c...ght-in-stings/

This is worth your time. Watch the entire ten minutes. There is a lot you can learn about tactics, how women can convince themselves (and you) they aren’t trafficked, and even some answers to questions often asked on this site when a sting is reported.

Pay attention to the details. It could prevent you from getting in trouble (or at least confirm some best practices you already employ).

[ahab11]

Once they read you Miranda and ask if you know what HT is? How often do you search for sex On Line? Did you know soliciting for sex is against the law? Did you know you were seeing a Prostitute? Your answer every time should be.....Lawyer....Lawyer.....La wyer......Lawyer. You can say nothing or do nothing to avoid the charge.....enjoy the ride and call a Bail Bond guy. Bond will be around $200-300 .......do not joke and kid around with any of those folks as they will document everything you say.....it will be held against you if you try to take it to trial.

Do not give them permission to search your phone and the best practice to get into is the habit of leaving your phone turned off and in your car. All the incriminating evidence is on your phone.

I think I avoided a Sting once when the girl said go to the 4th floor and I will text you the room number. I told her I do not carry my phone with me when I leave the car......she blew up my phone with nonsense and eventually gave me the room # but I was 15 minutes down the road. That's why I have a short fuse for waiting in Hotel Parking Lots.

The other tactic they use is once you are in cuffs they dial the number you called from waiting for it to ring your phone in your pocket, as that's the proof they want that they arrested the right guy. At that point they will read you Miranda Rights, not a crime to walk into a Hotel and knock on a door.

In Tarrant County Jeff Kennedy is a Criminal Lawyer you can trust.

Some 15 years ago Arlington was posting mugshots of guys arrested for solicitation, one guy had his picture taken wearing a Company Logo Shirt, immediately fired. That guy eventually got a six figure settlement from city for signing a NDA related to the incident and what a coincidence they immediately stopped posting those mug shots like that. Supposedly the only evidence they had on the guy was that he knocked on a hotel door and walked away.

[TinMan]

You probably noticed that the guy doesn’t go into the room before he is busted. None of this female decoy BS of old. They probably had everything they needed from the phone calls or texts, and they have video of the guys knocking on the doors (so easy to hide cameras these days, as the video demonstrates).

Even though they likely have enough to bust you, you are correct: the more you say when they sit you down for the interview the more likely it is you give them even more.

Something I was surprised to learn, from the reporter at the end of video: how quickly these guys show up after they make the phone call to set up the date. Earlier in the piece, from one of the cops: They are almost on top of each other…one john is pulling in to the hotel parking lot, one is in the room, and the other is getting pushed into the transport on the other side of the hotel. Maybe there is value in driving around the hotel before you go in.

[TinMan]

Oh, and Megapersonals is probably not the best place to shop for dates.

[Joddxxx]

Ahab11 made a good point about the parking lots, “she blew up my phone with nonsense and eventually gave me the room # but I was 15 minutes down the road. That's why I have a short fuse for waiting in Hotel Parking Lots.” I don’t like to wait around in a parking lot at a hotel. I’m always observing my surroundings in the area. One time, I waited for Tara Reid at a hotel’s parking lot. She kept on apologizing every 5 minutes that she was still getting ready to see. I replied I was about to leave, then she gave me the room #.

One thing I do is I drive around my surrounding areas and wait in the parking lot to see what type of activities is going on for that day. It’s interesting what comes up when you see a particular provider or an event that’s taking place.

[TinMan]

I won’t hang out in the parking lot for more than a few (less than 5) minutes. I’ll circle the neighborhood a few times, watching what is going on in and around the hotel, then if I still don’t hear anything I leave. I’ll let the lady know I’ve left the area at some point, the timing of which depends on how loud my hobby alarm is going off.

[nookiebandit]

I have a hobby buddy and we back each other up when its something new.

ME: "Hey buddy, I'm seeing a new girl, Jenna McStingley at La Quinta in Lewisville in 30 minutes."

BUDDY: "Okay, I'll give you a call in 90 minutes to see how it was!"

Call answered = no problems.
Call not answered = try again and start checking jail inmate databases...

If one of us has work, family or a place needing explaining, the other will cover and also handle any potential bail & jail support. It's never come to that thank god. Worst case was one of calling the other's place of work when hungover to say "Mr. Monger will be delayed today. I'm his neighbor and driving him to urgent care because he had a reaction to medication."



LADIES - its rough out there for all of us. Thank you to the established ladies who let us hobby at your apartment or home. I've always appreciated that.

[cinderbella]

I've run into a couple of trafficked females.
One of them was visibly pregnant, working her 2nd shift standing at the cash register at a dollar store, because her replacement did not show up. She was starving, so I walked around the corner and bought food for her, using money I received as a self employed taxpayer.

Another trafficked woman I met when I paid for my gasoline at a corporate owned gas station. She too told me that she was working her second shift in a row there, she told me that she was really hoping to be promoted for assistant manager. She stayed and worked because again, her replacement never showed up. I gently explained to her that it might have something to do with the hourly wage paid. She was serious when she replied that "Since the federal and state minimum wage is $ 7.25/hr., corporate cannot justify offering new hires more than $ 10.25/hr.".

Yes, of course there are trafficked women in the hobby. It repulses me. I am glad that they are at least TRYING to reach out to these women in a humane manner. I am just extremely frustrated that in 2025, where I live in Tyler, that it is still rare to find anyone in a basic service oriented job, who makes $ 13.00/hr. Most around here pay $ 10.00/hr.
Yes, Walmart pays more. It's stupid that we have not raised the minimum wage. It is cruelty, in my opinion.

I do think that pimping and pandering is related to poverty wages.
Among other things...

[TalliaThomas]

Always always always


Circle the parking lot. If you see a heavy police presence there--- it "could" be nothing-- but I'd be extra careful about it.



Having a "safety buddy" is always a great idea.

[nookiebandit]

Originally Posted by cinderbella

I do think that pimping and pandering is related to poverty wages.
Among other things...

Not trying to make this political or economy topic.

If you mean street pimping, the guys who manage these girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAJW86kZnzs

poverty is not a direct cause imo. how those girls were brought up, their lack of education or encouragement to educate themselves and desire for quick emotional and material gratification (including from lack of good family upbringing) or addiction drives that.

pimps find girls who want to be loved or cared for, emotionally manipulate them that "i'll take care of you, here i got you dis [material item or drug]" then have them repay that after they understand easiest way to get money is turn tricks. many, not all, of them are content with this life since they don't know anything else.

and its easier to make $100 in 15 mins then 1.5 days as a cashier.


for the LAZY COPS and LE reading here, those are the pimps and traffickers you should be working on getting off the streets.they prey on girls who "struggle with anxiety and coped with marijuana and alcohol at 15" and abduct them like this 15yr old girl. Dallas PD goes full LAZY USELESS NOT OUR PROBLEM and then says "report her as a runaway to the North Richland Hills Police Department, which is more than 30 miles away"

much easier to hang out at hotels on taxpayers dime though...

[mrredcat43]

Originally Posted by cinderbella

I've run into a couple of trafficked females.
One of them was visibly pregnant, working her 2nd shift standing at the cash register at a dollar store, because her replacement did not show up. She was starving, so I walked around the corner and bought food for her, using money I received as a self employed taxpayer.

Another trafficked woman I met when I paid for my gasoline at a corporate owned gas station. She too told me that she was working her second shift in a row there, she told me that she was really hoping to be promoted for assistant manager. She stayed and worked because again, her replacement never showed up. I gently explained to her that it might have something to do with the hourly wage paid. She was serious when she replied that "Since the federal and state minimum wage is $ 7.25/hr., corporate cannot justify offering new hires more than $ 10.25/hr.".

Yes, of course there are trafficked women in the hobby. It repulses me. I am glad that they are at least TRYING to reach out to these women in a humane manner. I am just extremely frustrated that in 2025, where I live in Tyler, that it is still rare to find anyone in a basic service oriented job, who makes $ 13.00/hr. Most around here pay $ 10.00/hr.
Yes, Walmart pays more. It's stupid that we have not raised the minimum wage. It is cruelty, in my opinion.

I do think that pimping and pandering is related to poverty wages.
Among other things...

You have a heart of gold. Not a lot of people would do that

[LustyBustyGina38FF]

I can see Motel be so easy to spot a sting more so then large chain hotel.

[7aurelius]

I’m about to join MASE

[Jimboed]

I'm not tryin to contribute to this issue. Are studios more or less likely to utilize this method to find workers? I'm probably a bit too naive currently and dont want to believe I've come across someone like this.

What about AMPs?

[LadyAnastasia]

I feel the term trafficked needs to be redifined or at least have class levels.