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Old 03-12-2023, 09:20 PM   #1
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Default Crazy Ass Leftists hate free speech and your First Amendment rights

Jonathan Turley

This week saw the spectacle of Democrats attacking journalists who broke the story of government censorship efforts. It is only the latest attack against any witness raising free speech concerns, including FBI agents, legal experts, and other members.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...-a-free-press/
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Old 03-12-2023, 09:26 PM   #2
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Glenn Greenwald

Look at this thread of 3 leading Democrats making the most deranged, McCarthyite statements imaginable about how crucial it is that we allow the US Security State to help censor the internet, and anyone who disagrees is an agent of Putin and Xi:

1. Truly demented outburst this week by Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) -- fulminating that a bill to limit censorship of social media by government agents should be called the "Putin Protection Act," because what Republicans really want is for "Putin and Xi to run free over our platforms"

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https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1...jBmIgnljw&s=19

2. It's not a new observation that Democrats have lost any ability to debate issues of public interest without incoherently screaming the word "Putin," but lately they've also taken to throwing in the words "Chinese Communist Party," as demonstrated here by Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA)

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3. Even by typical "Hitler analogy" standards, this from Rep. Greg Landsman (D-OH) is a doozy. "Putin, like Hitler, wants us divided," he declares -- accusing fellow Congressmen of "promoting Putin's will" by trying to curtail online censorship. "Remember, Hitler did this," he adds

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https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1...lKX_cuYpQ&s=19

4 This is like "Mad Libs" -- Congressional Democrat version. Really impressive contribution here by Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY)

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And the sad thing is there are people here who support this. I suspect that they will avoid this thread knowing that this is indefensible
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Old 03-13-2023, 10:02 PM   #4
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These crazy ass leftists don't give a damn about the Constitution or your First Amendment Rights

EXCLUSIVE: Senator Mark Kelly Called For Social Media Censorship To Prevent Bank Runs

Democrats are demanding ever-more censorship in a widening social media panic

https://public.substack.com/p/exclus...k-kelly-called
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... WHY is it that Republicans always want transparency
and the Dems always want to HIDE the facts of
what's really going on??

Democrats are for censure-ship and Repubs are NOT.

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Salty, don't fall into the absolutist trap and use always in this context because it's so easily disproven.

You know I will. And you know I only need one example to burst both of the bubbles
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Democrats are for censure-ship and Repubs are NOT.

#### Salty
It's quite sad Salty. You know it's bad when a well respected legal mind like Jonathan Turley and an award winning very liberal journalist like Glenn Greenwald call this bullshit out.

These are complete violations of American's, First Amendment rights. Yet you see how the leftists here support it and dismiss it. Pathetic
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Old 03-14-2023, 04:09 PM   #8
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Salty, don't fall into the absolutist trap and use always in this context because it's so easily disproven.

You know I will. And you know I only need one example to burst both of the bubbles
... Hee Hee! ... No bleedin' doubt that YOU
could show some examples of Republicans not showing
transparency with things, mate.

And a stalwart lad such-as yerself prolly got
8 or 12 at the ready to show us all!

Is the first one President Trump NOT showing
His tax information??

No doubt you surely got Abe Lincoln not showing
his 1872 Summer season log cabin rental.

... So lemme save us both some time and surely
abridge me comment to say "Republicans want
MORE transparency and Free Speech than the Dems do."...

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Trump taxes was #7
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... See? ... We Australians surely know-of human natures.

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Old 03-15-2023, 01:59 PM   #11
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And the sad thing is there are people here who support this. I suspect that they will avoid this thread knowing that this is indefensible
As I was saying. . .

One leftist trying to dismiss it and the rest hiding because they all support censorship
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Haven't dismissed anything. Simply helping Salty not fall into the easily avoidable traps of absolutism and looking foolish on the counter.

Gotta look out for our mates

Keeping those arguments tight and grounded in reality is a good thing.
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... HD can argue all the day in threads like this one, Berry.
And he'll surely make a few good points also.

But it IS rather the sound of crickets otherwise.
Nary a liberal comment.

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... HD can argue all the day in threads like this one, Berry.

And he'll surely make a few good points also.

But it IS rather the sound of crickets otherwise.
Nary a liberal comment.

#### Salty
That's because he and his fellow leftists support censorship and do not believe in the first amendment

And no, he won't make any good points because there are no good points in favor of censorship and destroying the first amendment. The founding fathers of our country had the foresight to understand that.
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Please tell us more about my beliefs
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