Something is rotten in the state of North Carolina

[Schwarzer Ritter]

Looks like the democrats are up to their old tricks. In the recent election Allison Riggs, the democrat, won over republican David Griffin by 734 votes. Their Supreme Court has decided that 65,000 ballots were accepted though lacking key information (signatures, addresses, dates, etc.). Some or all may be disqualified. It is believed that many of these late arrivals favor the democrat. This could flip the election. No one has been declared the winner yet in the election.

Look up your own source.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

Looks like the democrats are up to their old tricks. In the recent election Allison Riggs, the democrat, won over republican David Griffin by 734 votes. Their Supreme Court has decided that 65,000 ballots were accepted though lacking key information (signatures, addresses, dates, etc.). Some or all may be disqualified. It is believed that many of these late arrivals favor the democrat. This could flip the election. No one has been declared the winner yet in the election.

Look up your own source.

North Carolina judges side with Republican colleague in close Supreme Court election

https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-car...172150955.html

[Salty Again]

... Crikey! ... Evidence of Voter Fraud! ... ...

##### Salty

[ICU 812]

We must be the laughing stock of the world,both developed and third.

The USA should be the shining example of election integrity . . .but w3e re NOT.

This shit happens every election somewhere.

I support strong voter ID requirements.
I support Purging voter rolls of non-residents, non-citizens and the der departed every year.
I support severely limiting the use of absentee and mail in ballots.

Lets gt this straightened out.

[winn dixie]

Just wait
Give it time
Let the process take place
These things always work themselves out. No shenanigans going on in nc

[Yssup Rider]

Story said it all -- "Republican judges..."

MAGAs can't believe that more voters prefer not to have them in government than do.

So they cry fraud.

Let's see what shenanigans come out of DC to support the NC result.

[Salty Again]

... Criley! ... Sour grapes! ... How 'bout we let North Carolina
officials work out the situation there? ... IF they believe that
65,000 ballots should NOT have been counted - let's let them decide.

... Maybe disqualifying the ballots won't change the election result.
Why don't we wait and see before we whine and complain.

#### Salty

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Criley! ... Sour grapes! ... How 'bout we let North Carolina
officials work out the situation there? ... IF they believe that
65,000 ballots should NOT have been counted - let's let them decide.

... Maybe disqualifying the ballots won't change the election result.
Why don't we wait and see before we whine and complain.

#### Salty

How is that sour grapes, Salty?

[txdot-guy]

I understand the need for votes to be verified as legitimate but I really don’t like the idea of disenfranchising voters who did nothing wrong.

Considering the scarcity of voter fraud (despite what Trump and his MAGA supporters think) it’s my opinion that you will get a more accurate result if the contested ballots are counted. What you have now is a naked power grab by the republican candidate and his cronies on the court.

[farmstud60]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I understand the need for votes to be verified as legitimate but I really don’t like the idea of disenfranchising voters who did nothing wrong.

Considering the scarcity of voter fraud (despite what Trump and his MAGA supporters think) it’s my opinion that you will get a more accurate result if the contested ballots are counted. What you have now is a naked power grab by the republican candidate and his cronies on the court.

Totally wrong, in close elections it usually only takes a small percentage of votes to swing the election. 5000 to 10,000 can occur pretty easily, and Democrats usually are able to do that easily.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by farmstud60

Totally wrong, in close elections it usually only takes a small percentage of votes to swing the election. 5000 to 10,000 can occur pretty easily, and Democrats usually are able to do that easily.

Do you or anyone have any proof that the democrats ginned up 5000 to 10000 false or forged votes. Of course you don’t. No one ever does.

There are 65,000 ballots that are being contested. The voters who cast their ballots didn’t do anything wrong or anything that they had not done before in earlier elections.

If my vote got thrown out because of a technicality I would be extremely upset. Just another way that the voter ID movement is screwing the voting public.

[Schwarzer Ritter]

They didn't do it right. The instructions are on the envelope. Without that information it is hard to verify whether the vote is valid. Many of these votes came in after the polls closed. As a veteran and an absentee voter, I under the absentee voter conundrum. I want to wait to see if anything becomes relevant or do I get my vote in so it can be counted. If you haven't made up your mind two weeks before the election ... I can't help you.

Remember, this election was decided by less than 800 votes and 65,000 are at stake. Look up the Democrat primary election in Clay County in 2010 It was found in court documents that one candidate named Rizzo got 21 Somali refugees into to vote. They were instructed on how to and who to vote for. Rizzo won by 18 votes. The judge named Sweeney found that the wrong man (Rizzo) won the primary but would not order the cost of a new election. Two Rizzo relatives were found guilty and fined. Six months.later, Sweeney retired and took a job with the Rizzo family business (concrete) and made a lot of money.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

They didn't do it right. The instructions are on the envelope. Without that information it is hard to verify whether the vote is valid. Many of these votes came in after the polls closed. As a veteran and an absentee voter, I under the absentee voter conundrum. I want to wait to see if anything becomes relevant or do I get my vote in so it can be counted. If you haven't made up your mind two weeks before the election ... I can't help you.

Remember, this election was decided by less than 800 votes and 65,000 are at stake. Look up the Democrat primary election in Clay County in 2010 It was found in court documents that one candidate named Rizzo got 21 Somali refugees into to vote. They were instructed on how to and who to vote for. Rizzo won by 18 votes. The judge named Sweeney found that the wrong man (Rizzo) won the primary but would not order the cost of a new election. Two Rizzo relatives were found guilty and fined. Six months.later, Sweeney retired and took a job with the Rizzo family business (concrete) and made a lot of money.

A small number of incidents, a small number of fraudulent votes, an exceedingly rare occurrence.

Throwing out 65,000 ballots with no proof of any wrongdoing is just wrong. I understand why it’s occurring I just completely disagree with the reasoning. I also don’t like the fact that the judges ruling on the issue are colleagues of the candidate.

No matter how you look at the issue it just seems hinky to me. Claiming that “Democrats are up to their old tricks” assumes fraud with out showing proof.

[Schwarzer Ritter]

Your are more than welcome to spotlight Republican lead voter fraud.

[Salty Again]

... Got a better idea... Why don't we WAIT and let North Carolina
do their due-diligence work... They're giving time for those who
made ballot mistakes to correct the problem.

But what the Democrats don't favour is that those who DID cast
any of the "mistake" ballots will have to show proper ID to
be able to correct their ballot.

... Let's see how the process goes. ... Seems rather fair to me.

#### Salty