Israel Palestine 2 state discussion

[VitaMan]

The Israeli prime minister now says Palestinians should have a "state minus."

Not following this topic much, can someone give a discussion on this Israeli Palestinian conflict ?

As a casual observer, it seems Israel acts like America did when treating the Indians - taking land while providing Indians pockets of reservations to live on. Or the Russians annexing Poland as a "buffer state", for their security.

Israel does have legitimate security concerns, is a very small nation, surrounded by a tough neighborhood. Could be overrun and pushed to the sea almost overnight.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

The Israeli prime minister now says Palestinians should have a "state minus."

Not following this topic much, can someone give a discussion on this Israeli Palestinian conflict ?

As a casual observer, it seems Israel acts like America did when treating the Indians - taking land while providing Indians pockets of reservations to live on. Or the Russians annexing Poland as a "buffer state", for their security.

Israel does have legitimate security concerns, is a very small nation, surrounded by a tough neighborhood. Could be overrun and pushed to the sea almost overnight.

The Palestinians should have their own state - just not on the land God gave Israel. The other Arabs should give up land until Israel gets rid of the Palestinians and retains the West Bank, The Golan Heights, all of the Sea of Galilee, and the entire Dead Sea. Really, Israel deserves the entire Mediterranean Coast from Egypt to Turkey, free of the Arabs.

[Sistine Chapel]

Originally Posted by DSK

The Palestinians should have their own state - just not on the land God gave Israel. The other Arabs should give up land until Israel gets rid of the Palestinians and retains the West Bank, The Golan Heights, all of the Sea of Galilee, and the entire Dead Sea. Really, Israel deserves the entire Mediterranean Coast from Egypt to Turkey, free of the Arabs.

Israelites don't believe in Jesus... And as such they are cursed in Gods eyes. They sold Jesus out all of this according to the Bible.

So keep your long nose out of this

[instfixer]

I was born a Lebanese Christian [Maronite]
The only true indigenous inhabitants are some Christians and Sephardi Jews
All others came as conquerors

There will be no such thing as 'Peace in the Middle East"
The Sunni and Shite have been hacking [intermittently] each other for the past 1400 years

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

Israelites don't believe in Jesus... And as such they are cursed in Gods eyes. They sold Jesus out all of this according to the Bible.

So keep your long nose out of this

Why don't you kill some more Africans pig boy from the shitistan mosque...

http://time.com/migrant-dream/

One day in late April a new video surfaced on the social media site of the Libyan branch of the Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS). In it, a dozen men clad in orange jumpsuits kneel on a white sand beach before their knife-wielding executioners. In the next scene, filmed in the desert this time, another 16 prisoners are dressed in black. Behind the kneeling men in black stand 16 masked soldiers of the Islamic State, each holding a pistol to his prisoners’ head. In what has become a familiar trope in ISIS videos, one of the masked men points his pistol to the camera and declares, in a strong American accent, that he is doing the will of Allah.

As the soundtrack crescendos, the 29-minute-long video jumps between scenes of firing-squad carnage and gruesome images of individual beheadings. In the beach scene close-ups, militants drain the blood of their victims into the Mediterranean, staining the sea red.

The action movie-style editing and shock-value symbolism are typical of what the world has come to expect from the lurid propaganda videos made by ISIS. But these victims were not soldiers captured in combat, like the Jordanian pilot burned alive on camera a year ago. They were not even citizens of a country militarily aligned against the Islamic State, like the American journalist James Foley, beheaded by ISIS in August 2014. They were African migrants making their way to a better life in Europe, captured along the route to the smuggler’s boats that depart daily from the Libyan coast for Italy’s shores.

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It is on those bloodstained sands that the multiple strands of Europe’s migrant crisis — the rise of ISIS, Libya’s lawlessness, unscrupulous human traffickers and the lure of opportunity and security in European capitals — convene to tell a second chapter. At least seven of the 28 men in the video come from the brutal dictatorship of Eritrea, and—like the Syrians, Afghans and Iraqis crossing into Europe—would have likely been eligible for asylum had they reached their destination.

But most of the men came from Ethiopia, a once-desperately poor East African nation now on track to reach middle-income status in the next ten years, according to the World Bank. Many of the men were educated. Some had jobs, and others ran their own businesses. They, or their families, had enough means to scrape together $3000-$4000 in smuggler’s fees—a fortune in a country whose annual per-capita income is still only $550.

The International Organization for Migration [IOM] estimates that some 80,000 Africans crossed the Mediterranean in 2015, part of to the biggest wave of migrants since World War II. War and terrorism still drive people from their homes: at least seven African nations, from Nigeria under siege by Boko Haram to South Sudan and its civil war, have active conflict zones (Eritreans, Nigerians, Somalis and Sudanese top the list of African migrants to Europe, with Ethiopia not far behind). Climate change and desertification have also had an impact, one that will likely worsen in the years to come.

Yet Africa, despite global perception, is more stable and more prosperous than at any other time in recent history. The continent has averaged five percent growth over the past 15 years, compared to 4.1 percent in Europe and Central Asia and only 3 percent in Latin America. Which raises the question: if Africa is doing so well, why are so many Africans risking their lives to leave?

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According to the head of the Association of Ethiopian Overseas Recruitment Agencies, an estimated 200,000 Ethiopians a year use illegal means to seek jobs abroad, mostly to the Middle East, South Africa and Europe. One of them was 38-year old Balcha Belete, a strikingly handsome electrical engineer who lived in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia’s capital, and had a low-paying job with a government-owned power company. The unmarried youngest child of 14 siblings, he was known as the brother you could turn to in an emergency, and the uncle who would do anything for his nieces and nephews.

Yet without saying a word to his close-knit family, Belete left home earlier this year, crossing from Ethiopia into Sudan on Valentine’s Day accompanied by his neighbor, Eyassu Yukuno-Amlak. It was the first step of a journey that would end abruptly in southeastern Libya a little more than two months later, where the two men and fourteen others were filmed being shot, execution style, by soldiers of ISIS. “My brother died on the sands of Libya like an animal, for a dream that he was going to change his life,” says Belete’s sister Belynesh. She, like the rest of her family, only realized that her brother had died when they watched the video of his execution broadcast on a satellite news channel. “He thought he was going to England,” she surmised, breaking into tears over his memory. “But he didn’t even make it to the Mediterranean.”

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel

So keep your long nose out of this.

Do you still have a snout?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Do you still have a snout?

Yes, it's usually buried in someone's asshole.

[00 gauge]

You should go back and re-read your bible, Sistine ..... especially the book of Revelation, although I have serious doubts you have the required intellect to interpret it correctly ..... so here's the Revelation for Dummies version ..... Israel is God's chosen land Armageddon is coming (the end of the world resulting in the second coming of Christ ) ..... and when all is said and done there is only one country left standing at the end of the holocaust ..... and no, it's not the United States, and no, the Palestinians won't be co-owners of the land .....

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by 00 gauge

You should go back and re-read your bible, Sistine .....

HER "bible" is "A Guide to Lubing One's Ass Before Butt Fucking"!