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JV82 · 03-18-2016, 11:03 PM

I've searched the SD/SB threads but have yet to see a specific answer to my question, so here goes. I see some escort ads that list "long term arrangements" and "sugar baby" in the same ad. My question is what, exactly, is the difference?

Fancyinheels · 03-19-2016, 11:27 AM

Well, I've had several "long-term arrangements." They are usually clearly structured, with a gentleman paying a set dollar amount for so many regular meetings, often upfront, and either through a prearranged method or upon his first visit of the month. His sessions would be appreciably discounted from normal rate, and while the provider is apt to be generous with her time when accommodating him, there would still be an upper limit. While she would give the fellow preferential scheduling, she would continue to see other clients, advertise, and conduct herself as she pleased.

I haven't had a "sugar daddy." Such agreements usually involve the dominant consumer paying specific bills, like rent and utilities to keep his lady up, giving her an allowance, possibly providing a car, and buying her lavish gifts. (Well, I have been lucky enough to experience the "lavish gift" part.

) It is usually much more lucrative for the lady than just an "arrangement," but involves more compromise on her part. Carnal and companionable interludes would likely not include a clock at all, and she would probably be expected to be at the gent's beck and call, especially if their agreement calls for limited if not total exclusivity. The SD would have first dibs on his SB's presence, which could preempt plans she makes otherwise. He may require her to narrow or completely stop her advertising and lower her overall visibility online so that he would be her top priority, and he may not want to share his "toy."

While most people have the preconceived notion of a sugar baby being a younger lass, in her twenties with her patron considerably older, age really has no bearing for either, or even gender. Any person can have an arrangement or be a sugar baby with any "daddy" or "momma" who sets the rules with a wallet. The difference, I would say, is the amount of money involved and "control." The SD or SM has more direct influence on a SB's life, expenditures, behavior, exposure, and time. This distinction turns a woman (and we'll stick with female as that's what the OP asked about) into what we old timers used to call a "mistress," before the whips and chains were included in modern definition.

Both call for the lady to become considerably more involved with a gentleman than she might with an average client, but the SB/SD dynamic is more of an actual, committed relationship, and when that happens there's the risk of emotions dropping by and mucking things up. A tightrope has to be strung up and each participant should walk carefully, the SB treading softly.

Being a bold and sassy Irish lassie, I'd rather just have an arrangement and do things as I Fancy. The problem with depending on a SD is what happens if he gets bored or too demanding and/or there's a serious disagreement? The SB can be left flat out in the cold financially, starting all over again from scratch.

Fancyinheels · 03-19-2016, 12:13 PM

Oh, one more note... If you commit to taking a sugar baby on, you're still expected to pay out even if something comes up and you can't see her that month. While long-term arrangements are more flexible, some also work that way, especially if you have a lady depending on your frequent patronage for the majority of her sustenance. Be clear up front about the parameters and exceptions.

GlobeSpotter · 03-19-2016, 01:30 PM

SBs also come hang out with you at your house and munch all the snacks in your pantry.

JV82 · 03-19-2016, 04:59 PM

Thanks for the reply. I've had two very successful SB arrangements in the past but wanted to hear an escort perspective. Both were non-pro in their mid twenties and were very close to a real bf/gf relationship. Exclusive, not time limited nor covered (after testing) and a shit load of fun. There were some feelings involved but controlled.

Guest021217 · 03-19-2016, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JV82

Thanks for the reply. I've had two very successful SB arrangements in the past but wanted to hear an escort perspective. Both were non-pro in their mid twenties and were very close to a real bf/gf relationship. Exclusive, not time limited nor covered (after testing) and a shit load of fun. There were some feelings involved but controlled.

Good luck with that

albundy · 03-19-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JV82

Thanks for the reply. I've had two very successful SB arrangements in the past but wanted to hear an escort perspective. Both were non-pro in their mid twenties and were very close to a real bf/gf relationship. Exclusive, not time limited nor covered (after testing) and a shit load of fun. There were some feelings involved but controlled.

^^^
Why in the FUCK would you go back to banging hourly hookers when you had that kind of a set up?!?

JV82 · 03-20-2016, 09:50 PM

I likely won't if I can find another good one....they're very tough to find and have a limited shelf life (about a year each). If they find someone they want to date seriously, I bow out. It gets too complicated at that point. It's a shitload of fun while it lasts. If you're considering it yourself, I'd steer clear of the pay sites like Seeking Arrangements. I found both ladies through irl friends. I asked the question because I see many escorts advertise both long term arrangements and sugar baby, and wanted to hear how they defined the difference.

JV82 · 03-20-2016, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Good luck with that

Yes, I was very lucky. Definitely hard to find once, never mind twice.

mirandalee · 03-20-2016, 10:08 PM

Had a sugar daddy once it was fun until he tried to act like my dam daddy and be controlling so left.

TheCat'sMeow · 03-21-2016, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mirandalee

Had a sugar daddy once it was fun until he tried to act like my dam daddy and be controlling so left.

It's always about the control in that kind of an "arrangement",,,Money is best arranged by the minute/hour. Mixing business with pleasure isn't professional at all.

JV82 · 03-21-2016, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCat'sMeow

It's always about the control in that kind of an "arrangement",,,Money is best arranged by the minute/hour. Mixing business with pleasure isn't professional at all.

That's why a true SB and a long term arrangement with a provider are two very different things. One is approached from strictly a business perspective, the other being much more as a mistress or fwb relationship.

TheCat'sMeow · 03-21-2016, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JV82

That's why a true SB and a long term arrangement with a provider are two very different things. One is approached from strictly a business perspective, the other being much more as a mistress or fwb relationship.

FWB means no money is involved and SBs are not that,,,A mistress is a whore playing fantasy wife,,, You are living in denial if you think SBs are relationship candidates and are not paid whores.

gearslut · 03-21-2016, 05:29 PM

^^^^^^^^^ this.... If there's $$$$ involved the girl loses her amateur status. Sugar Baby / Provider. A rose by any other name and all.

albundy · 03-21-2016, 10:07 PM

Who gives a shit what they're called?!? THAT SOUNDS FUCKING AWESOME!!!

If you are single AND have the means, the hell with going the hourly hooker route. I guaran-freakin-tee you if I was in the situation to be able to pull it off, it would be no contest at all.