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12-06-2010, 02:24 PM
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ATF's: Mens vs. Ladies
This has always been a somewhat distant thought of mine. The term ATF. We know both the ladies and the men have them, but i'm curious as to what (if anything) makes them different between the Ladies and the guys. And ladies, I am curious if you have an ATF, does that person cross some sort of "professional line" that you have drawn for other clients, and at the same time, are expectations different of our Atf's vs. other clients or ladies?
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12-06-2010, 03:13 PM
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The ATF is the one that, even though you may not see them all the time, you always go back. And it doesn't matter how long it has been.
The ATF is the one that does something that stands out above the rest.
The ATF is the one that you compare all the others to.
The ATF is the one that probably understands you and what is going on with you maybe even more than you do yourself.
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12-08-2010, 01:19 PM
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I really thought there would have been more responses... is this topic Taboo? Come on ladies.. .you too!
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12-08-2010, 01:42 PM
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Dave,
It's hard for me to put into words. Is just for a lack of clearer terminolgy "a fit". Is definately physical, is also a bond that gets created, a combination of psycological, being compatable, a great line of communication set up and maintained, and just feeling great with someone. Is to steal a term from Emeril, a relationship with another that is "Kicked up a Notch"!
Someone you feel great being with, talking with via phone, text emails anyways, and when together the physical just takes on a flow of its own, you know just by an instinct what turns each other on. She (He) just makes you feel better every time you connect!
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12-08-2010, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Laker
Dave,
It's hard for me to put into words. Is just for a lack of clearer terminolgy "a fit". Is definately physical, is also a bond that gets created, a combination of psycological, being compatable, a great line of communication set up and maintained, and just feeling great with someone. Is to steal a term from Emeril, a relationship with another that is "Kicked up a Notch"!
Someone you feel great being with, talking with via phone, text emails anyways, and when together the physical just takes on a flow of its own, you know just by an instinct what turns each other on. She (He) just makes you feel better every time you connect!
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Laker, I could not have said it better, Amen !
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12-08-2010, 02:06 PM
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So then is it the standard you set all appointments to live up to, or do you intrinsically realize that an appt with your ATF will always be different, and because of that bond, expectations are much higher that with your "standard" appt.?
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12-08-2010, 02:22 PM
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The ATF is the one that you compare all the others to.
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So true Das. She has that look and attitude that hits you like no other. An ATF is one you would drop what you might be doing if she called and said hey lets meet. That doesn't mean you can't have a few ATF's. I am also confident I am on many of the ladies ATF list. LOL
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12-08-2010, 02:39 PM
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The word ATF strictly speaking should apply only to one unique person. Since in the hobbying world it is routinely expanded to include more than one person, the more appropriate term is perhaps the A-List.
Some of the criteria a guy uses to decide on his A-List providers probably include: beauty, sensuality, physical and/or intellectual connection, empathy, TCB skills
Some of the criteria a lady uses to decide on her A-List clients probably include (just guessing): gentlemanly behavior, reliability, physical and/or intellectual connection, sensuality, generosity
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12-08-2010, 02:57 PM
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Some of the criteria a lady uses to decide on her A-List clients probably include (just guessing): gentlemanly behavior, reliability, physical and/or intellectual connection, sensuality, generosity
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Someone that realizes that "hygiene" is something more than how you may greet someone named Gene. I'm sure this one goes for gents and providers.
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12-08-2010, 02:59 PM
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Das, hygiene was indeed on my mind too, but I didn't want to be too explicit!
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12-08-2010, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Docdave
So then is it the standard you set all appointments to live up to, or do you intrinsically realize that an appt with your ATF will always be different, and because of that bond, expectations are much higher that with your "standard" appt.?
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I think I have a higher expectation of events when I set an appointment with the ATF. The bar has been previously set at a certain level, and I expect it to be met or exceeded by them. I can say that I have not been disappointed.
When setting an appointment with another, I do not expect them to meet the same level as I do with the ATF. Everyone is different, has a different setup, a different talent, a different technique. Most are good or great. Some are ho-hum. But there is still something that they do, or do not do, that can't replace the ATF.
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12-08-2010, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jackfengshui
Some of the criteria a lady uses to decide on her A-List clients probably include (just guessing): gentlemanly behavior, reliability, physical and/or intellectual connection, sensuality, generosity
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You left out sense of humor.
I figure I must be funny the way they all seem to point and laugh.
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12-08-2010, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Das Ubersoldat
I think I have a higher expectation of events when I set an appointment with the ATF. The bar has been previously set at a certain level, and I expect it to be met or exceeded by them. I can say that I have not been disappointed.
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Does your ATF know that SHE IS your ATF ???
Or simply on your A-List ?
Anyone can answer, this was not directed at Das !
My ATF Knows :-)
 , he he
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12-08-2010, 07:35 PM
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im thinking that if youve seen your atf once a week minimum, say for the last three years or so, she probably knows
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12-08-2010, 08:09 PM
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im thinking that if youve seen your atf once a week minimum, say for the last three years or so, she probably knows
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Wish I had that kind of disposable income.
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