Yes, another rates thread

[oldbutstillgoing]

Well, kind of.I have noticed over the last few months a small but very vocal group of guys have been publicly berating and attacking gals in the WW about their rates and services. Rates are too high, they have GPS, services are too limited, etc.
To me, if a provides rates are higher than I want to pay or she does not offer a service I want, I wish her the best of luck and move on to one that meets my needs. Plenty of gals out there. Why waste time and effort on one who does not? If any provider can get guys to pay her what she wants, then more power to her. Clearly someone thinks she’s worth it. If not, she will lower her rates or leave the market. Simple, right?

Yet this group of guys seems to think they are the rate and services police.If you don’t meet their “standards”, then you have GPS, are stupid bitches, no one should see her, etc. They are very vocal in private forums and now are doing it in public ones. They are very quick to attack anyone, guys included, that do not agree with them.

And the best part? Some of these guys think we should boycott gals over a specific rate. Typically $200 or so. ROFLMAO Yea, right I tell them go for it. Hell, close their accounts in protest.

I have been able to chat with a few new gals. They tell me they get swamped with requests for discounts, expanded services, reviews for free sessions, etc .They tell me the reputation of ECCIE is the wal-mart of escort boards and very unfriendly. Several girls have told me they would not come here but business is tough and they are trying to expand their markets. They hate BP even more but can go there and make more money.

To me, the more gals we have here the better it is for everyone. Even if they are gals I would not see, they add to the community and help make it better for everyone.

What do you think? Is it right for these guys to attack the new providers? Are they helping keep rates down? As a provider, how do you respond to guys like this?

[SD2011]

Go cheap, get cheap...expect less

If I pick a gal to meet I've already accepted her published fees and that point of discussion never enters my mind. This notion of guys haggling sounds rather like a beat down to me and not that conducive to playing (the mood) or helping a provider with her own real needs.

If you cannot afford her at her stated rates...you can't afford her....so quit the beat down (haggling) and go pick a provider who operates within your economic threshold of acceptance and capability.

[oldbutstillgoing]

Oh, and I challenged these guys to post here in Co-Ed about their actions and how they feel about rates and services. Lets see if they have the balls to defend themselves where the ladies can respond back.

[Luke Skywalker]

I doubt they will post here osbg...

[playerplano]

Ha ha I don't imagine many will come here and admit their actions. I do think there is a subtle difference between trying to take advantage of new = naive and discussing a grandfather fee or special with an established provider. I have had conversations with an established provider that went along the lines of I'd love to see you but the hobby funds won't permit. The ladies always have the right to offer a good customer a deal. That's their choice just as they can say don't ask me for discounts.

Douch bags who ask for free in exchange for reviews or jump on every newbie pressuring for free or discounted sessions are just dicks.

[Itrain]

Ok I understand the point of if you can't afford it don't buy it. But the other side has his points. Just because some desperate guys with money are willing to overpay doesn't make it right. Higher prices is going to drive demand down and eventually supply is going to follow. The pool of guys that can pay 350-500 is way smaller than the 200-250 group. The group with higher income won't be able to sustain enough demand to keep all the providers in the game. So whichever group you fall into. Do your best to grow the hobby for the benefits of all

[Andrea Love]

They vary by location but I haven't had any problems with my rates, especially on P411 no one even really mentions it especially when visiting the big cities

[Boltfan]

http://m.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1139417

Apparently it is now ok to question how a lady chooses to price her product.

[oldbutstillgoing]

Originally Posted by Itrain

Ok I understand the point of if you can't afford it don't buy it. But the other side has his points. Just because some desperate guys with money are willing to overpay doesn't make it right. Higher prices is going to drive demand down and eventually supply is going to follow. The pool of guys that can pay 350-500 is way smaller than the 200-250 group. The group with higher income won't be able to sustain enough demand to keep all the providers in the game. So whichever group you fall into. Do your best to grow the hobby for the benefits of all

the point is its not ok to attack women because they choose a rate and service level that some guys do not like. or even to attack guys who wish to support a market segment not all can afford. And having the money to indulge yourself to get what you want is not desperate or over paying. Its your choice and you are entitled to it in this country.

[EZ.]

OBSG, I find this amusing. I think we talked about it. Rates are less than they were before and the menu items have increased. You never used to see half hour rates. Hell as old as I am, it takes that long to get my clothes off. There were few that offered Greek (not my thing). There are girls with $$ or $$.5 that would have been $$$+.

I have looked at some of the showcases and thought you must be kidding. I saw a large girl, I wouldn't see if it was free, that wanted $ more than someone that I hope to.

I've never asked for a discount. We all look at the pictures and see the price. You weigh the perceived value. I'm either in or out. With guys, like me, they could price themselves out of the market and not know it.

At the strip club, they are all going to hit you high but that is different.

For perspective: A guy was walking down the street and ran into a hooker. He asked how much for a blow job? She said $200. TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!! She asked how much would you charge?

[lily blake]

Wow... This won't end well lol

I will say I'm thankful I am no longer a newbie, you men have no idea the sick fucks that try to take advantage of new girls. I'm so thankful also that I had a couple of girls to help me. If any girl sees this and wants some help or moral support I'm here.

[EZ.]

Originally Posted by lily blake

Wow... This won't end well lol

I will say I'm thankful I am no longer a newbie, you men have no idea the sick fucks that try to take advantage of new girls. I'm so thankful also that I had a couple of girls to help me. If any girl sees this and wants some help or moral support I'm here.

Back in the ASPD days, I had girls that offered a discount for a review. I told them that it would be an honest review. I didn't feel guilty but I wasn't soliciting them.

[EZ.]

Originally Posted by OldButStillGoing

the point is its not ok to attack women because they choose a rate and service level that some guys do not like. or even to attack guys who wish to support a market segment not all can afford. And having the money to indulge yourself to get what you want is not desperate or over paying. Its your choice and you are entitled to it in this country.

I call them bottom feeders. If you are truly desperate you go to the lower priced women ...it is all warm and wet. When you are looking at the top of a head bobbing, it's pretty much the same. I have always been selective. Thin girls and little spinners.
The owner sets the price, the buyer has the right of refusal.

[EZ.]

Originally Posted by Andrea Love

They vary by location but I haven't had any problems with my rates, especially on P411 no one even really mentions it especially when visiting the big cities

Need some help bouncing those? Don't want your arms to get tired.

[Alyssa_Dream]

Originally Posted by OldLRRP

For perspective: A guy was walking down the street and ran into a hooker. He asked how much for a blow job? She said $200. TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!! She asked how much would you charge?

lol... nice view and it's funny!!!