Corrupt Ukraine

[berryberry]

Oh look, just like several of us noted months ago. Ukraine is corrupt and billions of hard earned American tax dollars were wasted there for nothing

[eyecu2]

This doesn't surprise me one bit. Where there is copious amounts of money, you'll find corruption. Sadly no-one is trust-worthy anymore. I see every single person with a hand out, and a finger pressed up to their lips. It's a hot mess out there. Giving money is a bad idea- providing arms is usually a little better, but at some point, that's not so great either. We just can't be the cops for everyone.

[berryberry]

LOL, now this. What a corrupt country Ukraine is. No wonder they are losing badly but still trying to grift money from the US to enrich themselves

Ukraine’s top general refuses request from Zelenskiy to step down

Volodymyr Zelenskiy asked his most senior military commander, Valerii Zaluzhnyi, to step down on Monday but the popular general refused, triggering speculation that he will be dismissed instead.

Tensions between the two have been simmering for weeks amid the failure of Ukraine’s summer counter-offensive but the suggestion that Zaluzhnyi could be forced out nevertheless came as a shock to many.

Oleksii Goncharenko, a Ukrainian opposition MP and ally of the general, told the Guardian that he understood that “yesterday the president asked Zaluzhnyi to resign but he declined to do so”.

[berryberry]

While I have exposed it here multiple times in the past about Ukraine's Nazi's, most Americans have no idea who and what we’ve been supporting in Ukraine.

Zaluzhny on eve of his expected firing by Zelensky shows his backing from far-right, which has power to overthrow Zelensky. Zaluzhny takes selfie with leader of far-right Right Sector & commander of Right Sector brigade of Ukrainian military in front of portrait of Nazi collaborator & far-right OUN leader Bandera & red & black flag of OUN-UPA & Right Sector.

[berryberry]

The reason Corrupt Zelensky fired Zaluzhny. He didn't want the gravy train of money to stop. Zaluzhny has been telling Zelensky things he didn't want to hear: Ukraine will lose without massively expanding conscription.

The problem: Ukraine already dragged most everyone to the front line.

So just like some of us said ages ago, Ukraine is losing and will lose and should have negotiated a settlement with Russia way back in the beginning. Instead they have wasted US dollars, gotten 1000's of Ukranian's killed for what. A negotiated settlement that will be worse than they could have gotten before

[berryberry]

According to famed reporter Seymour Hersh, CIA Director Burns had to warn Zelensky to stop stealing so much money. Also Zelensky’s subordinates were upset that he was taking too large a cut of the spoils.

[berryberry]

So the CIA told Senile Biden that Zelensky “was taking too large a cut of the spoils.” And Senile Biden KEPT sending him more US Taxpayer money to loot

So how “large a cut” was acceptable?
Did Senile Biden make sure to get his 10%

And was Senile Biden going to tell us this before or after Congress voted on sending Ukraine another $62 billion?

[berryberry]

Funny how all the leftists Ukraine cheerleaders have tuck tail and run now that Ukraine's corruption has been exposed and as they continue to get their asses kicked against Russia

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Funny how all the leftists Ukraine cheerleaders have tuck tail and run now that Ukraine's corruption has been exposed and as they continue to get their asses kicked against Russia

So are you supporting an authoritarian regime over throwing and taking over a neighbor nation? Corruption aside, I cannot believe that you think that's ok to do. Relative to Russia kicking asses, of course they should be able to defeat a farming nation and mostly rural country folks, who just don't want to be part of the mother country. It's sad to see that the Russians have literally taken cities and reduced them to rubble in the name of sovereignty and unity. It couldn't be any further from the truth.

I'm certain its' for the money and assets that the country of Ukraine's natural resources, vs. the political inspiration of unification. So when you mention corruption, are you suggesting the that the obvious reason for taking over Ukraine is anything better than what Zelensky is doing? One person putting their hand out is the same as the other doing it. It's just being done at the cost of an entire countries humanity and population.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

So are you supporting an authoritarian regime over throwing and taking over a neighbor nation?

I don't support either Ukraine or Russia

From the beginning I never supported giving hard earned US Tax dollars to a corrupt regime like Ukraine

I said numerous times Ukraine needed to negotiate a settlement with Russia. Russia wanted to reunify a few former USSR border areas where the majority of the population actually supported Russia and not Ukraine. There was a deal on the table to do so but Senile Biden and the UK convinced Corrupt Zelensky not to do so

As a result, thousands of Ukrainian's have needlessly died, Billions of US money wasted. And the end result will still be a negotiated settlement with Russia controlling those border territories and now perhaps even more