For the Love of God, Why Libya?

[CuteOldGuy]

What possible, remotely possible, interest do we have in Libya? Is President Obama TRYING to copy President Bush?! Another useless war, more borrowed money spent, and more promising lives lost.

This can't be happening. Not again.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/wo.../18powers.html

[Longermonger]

60 days is up...stop for a day...start new 60 days. Problem?

Let Republicans force Obama from supporting NATO in Libya. Then watch the genocide and power vacuum. We'll call them "Boehner's bodies".

Or...let RC pilots fly drones over the desert and STFU. Let our troops do their jobs.

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

So dropping bombs isn't considered 'hostilities' by Obama? What, are we dropping bombs filled with rainbows and fairy dust??

I seem to remember another President who said he didn't believe waterboarding was 'torture' either......

[CuteOldGuy]

Longer, you didn't answer the question. What interest do we have in Libya that is worth American lives?

[JD Barleycorn]

We have spent nearly a billion dollars on this non-war which is not really the point except it has been a central talking point of the democrats. Obama is now in violation of the War Powers Act which gave him 90 days to act and conclude his war. Time is up. Obama says the cost has been factored in as "training" money. If training means getting shot at or risking getting shot at. Hopefully the GOP and some democrats will hold Obama to the letter of the law on Monday.

[CuteOldGuy]

I hope they do, too, JD, but I'm not holding my breath.

[catnipdipper]

Stopping or trying to stop genocide. No more Darfur.

Need to fly a drone over Damascus too and then Tehran.

[deacon]

not to fret......we will be out in days not weeks.

[Cheaper2buyit]

Drones are fine but no boots on the ground. Same song find them kill them end of story.

[CuteOldGuy]

My question is, find them, kill them, why? What threat did the civilians and babies we killed pose to us?

[JD Barleycorn]

I am all for defending the helpless and the weak but it should be correctly. You don't go in half assed with little non-controversial taps when a massive short response would work better. Our original stated goal was to remove Khadaffi then the state department followed by the White House lost track. They started talking about exerting pressure for Khadaffi to do the right thing and protecting civilians. If we had taken Khadaffi out on day one and warned the next strong man that he was expendable as well the civilians would not now be in danger and Khadaffi would be gone.
As for Darfur; it is always amusing to see someone like Clooney demanding help but when someone suggests using the military he starts to backtrack. I think liberals have a real problem with Darfur because the bad guys are black. Like Rwanda, the liberals don't want to be seen having a war with black people but they forget the victims are black also. Take the movie "Tears of the Sun" with Bruce Willis. The critics hated that movie for that very reason. They didn't like the white men slaughering the black men or that the black men were really terrible villains. Cutting off the heads of missionaries and raping the nuns is no way to portray out black brothers in Africa. They are what they are and the mostly white SEAL team were the avenging angels protecting the black civilians caught in the cross fire.
Why do we do it? Because we are about the only people in the world who care enough and have the means to be the protector. We need to learn to get in, get the job done, and get the people to help themselves. Remember the movie "High Noon". Gary Cooper did his job even when the towns people abandoned him. Then he threw his badge down and left forever. He fixed their immediate problem and now they are on their own. We should take a lesson.

[Longermonger]

1. Automated weapons systems
The ability to launch helicopter drones from a Navy ship is something "new under the sun".

2. $$$money$$$. He's running out of money. It would be very stupid to stop now.
http://www.bi-me.com/main.php?id=530...cg=4&mset=1011

3. American live(s)? Zero so far, excluding journalists.

4. Why? Action was taken to prevent a massacre. Quitting now will ensure a massacre.

5. I don't even think there are any Marines or Army soldiers on the ground in Libya. Maybe some CIA or SEALs??? It sounds like the Navy is just providing intel and support for NATO with unmanned drones. Prove me wrong.

[KCJoe]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

If we had taken Khadaffi out on day one and warned the next strong man that he was expendable as well the civilians would not now be in danger and Khadaffi would be gone.

Taking Khadaffi out is probably not as easy as you think it might be. Reagan tried and only ended up killing his daughter. I think they've been trying, but he's a slippery little fuck.

[kcbigpapa]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Remember the movie "High Noon". Gary Cooper did his job even when the towns people abandoned him. Then he threw his badge down and left forever. He fixed their immediate problem and now they are on their own. We should take a lesson.

You do understand the difference between movies and real life right? Maybe if John Wayne was alive we could just drop him in the middle of the Libya and come back two weeks later and everything would be fixed. How about we drop Bruce Willis over there? Or Chuck Norris? Does anyone know if Rambo is real? We could use him over there.

[CuteOldGuy]

Stop a massacre? Seems like we're creating one. We have no interest there, this is insane. All Qaddafi did was reject President Obama's demand that he step down, now we are throwing a tantrum. It is ridiculous, and there will likely be troops on the ground before year's end. The very best outcome that is possible from this is that Qaddafi will be removed, and replaced with another dictator who hates us as much as he does. Not worth one American dime, let alone one American life.