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Old 08-30-2012, 11:07 AM   #1
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Default Paul Ryan's like Stimulus(Flip Flopper)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wpC...eature=related


Paul Ryan admits that stimulus is needed to create jobs.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:20 AM   #2
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What a fucking joke; You have to reach back a decade ?

Obama has flip flopped on so many issues it isn't funny; how about his phony pledge 2009 to cut the defecit in half in his first term ?

Or the 2008 Obama statement that the Bush debt was "unpatriotic"....then Obama triples the Bush debt........being traitorious by Obama's standards one would think.

Your use of a 10 year old video to discredit Ryan; only discredits Obama more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaQUU2ZL6D8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmr...eature=related


Which brings up another great line in the Ryan speech:
"The choice is whether to put hard limits on economic growth, or hard limits on the size of government, and we choose to limit government. "
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:25 AM   #3
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Bush passed 1100 spending bills in 1700 days ... Ryan voted straight down party lines.

Ryan voted for Part D thats costing taxpayers billions
Ryan voted for the bank bailout
Ryan voted for the auto bailout
Ryan voted for the stimulus packages Bush signed.

he has an epiphany and becomes a fiscal conservative over night, hes concerned we spend too much and the budget needs to be balanced before we fall off the fiscal cliff ... ASAP!

thus, he has another epiphany ... he adds to the deficit for another decade before he will balance the budget by 2040-50 .. ASAP??????

I dont dislike the guy at all, but seriously?

who the hell does he think hes trying to fuk n" fool ... whirlie and joe?
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:44 AM   #4
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What a fucking joke; You have to reach back a decade ?

Obama has flip flopped on so many issues it isn't funny; how about his phony pledge 2009 to cut the defecit in half in his first term ?

Or the 2008 Obama statement that the Bush debt was "unpatriotic"....then Obama triples the Bush debt........being traitorious by Obama's standards one would think.

Your use of a 10 year old video to discredit Ryan; only discredits Obama more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaQUU2ZL6D8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmr...eature=related


Which brings up another great line in the Ryan speech:
"The choice is whether to put hard limits on economic growth, or hard limits on the size of government, and we choose to limit government. "
There's a difference between making a promise and not being able to fulfll versus being for something and than all of a sudden you are so against it. Keep in ind how the fuck get Obama reduce deficit if all his bills were being blocked?
I could give a rats ass if the speech was 50 years ago- it's the same moral principle. Ryan in 2002 stated that govt stimulus is needed in order to spark job growth and increase revenue - so in 2012 what's the difference? He(Ryan) even took stimulus money- he's a flip flopping liar just like his running mate.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:49 AM   #5
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RYAN: "The stimulus was a case of political patronage, corporate welfare and cronyism at their worst. You, the working men and women of this country, were cut out of the deal."
THE FACTS: Ryan himself asked for stimulus funds shortly after Congress approved the $800 billion plan, known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Ryan's pleas to federal agencies included letters to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis seeking stimulus grant money for two Wisconsin energy conservation companies.
One of them, the nonprofit Wisconsin Energy Conservation Corp., received $20.3 million from the Energy Department to help homes and businesses improve energy efficiency, according to federal records. That company, he said in his letter, would build "sustainable demand for green jobs." Another eventual recipient, the Energy Center of Wisconsin, received about $365,000
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Thank god the Democrats and Republicans didn't approve Obama's 3 budgets ! The Obama budgets were so bad, so debt laden, so political/economically toxic that not ONE Democrat voted yes on the Obama budgets !
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