No Good Housekeeping Seal for Amber!

[Guest080312-1]

I had a serious case of lust on Easter Sunday. Unfortunately, I was unable to synchronize my own schedule (that included afternoon dinner with friends) with those of a couple of my faves.

Looking for alternatives, I PM'd a couple other providers, including Amber the Housekeeper. However, I did not hear back from her until late Monday afternoon:

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Wow, I thought -- gotta give this girl credit for trying. I called, identified myself, and let her know that my place wasn't presentable. But would she like to meet me at one of my favorite steak houses by the Big Boots; and, if she felt comfortable with me (she never mentioned references), we'd repair to her incall for an hour afterward?

That sounded great to her, and we agreed to meet at 7:00 PM. Having given a description of myself, I told her I'd be waiting at the bar.

On the way, I wondered to myself: Did I mention to her that dinner was off the clock? I thought I had. However, knowing that she'd been "stiffed" by a client early this year ( see her alert at http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=355797 ), I decided to leave nothing to chance, and sent her the following text msg:

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Had she not been "OK with that", I expected a call back, so we could either compromise on the hourly rate for that part of the date, or call off the date altogether, with no hard feelings on either's part. However, having heard nothing in reply, I called at 6:44, to let her know I'd arrived, and was sitting at the bar; no answer (busy driving, perhaps?), so I left a message.

7:09 -- Called again. Hung up after 3-4 rings.

7:19 -- No answer. Left a message:

"This is Gary. Are you OK?"

7:27 -- I heard a voice after a couple of rings. "Hi, this is Gary." There was a lot of noise around me; since I could hear nothing at the other end, I almost shout, "Hello? Hello?" Nothing. I hung up.

7:38 -- I called to let her know I was about to leave. After 3-4 rings, I hung up, leaving no message.

I can only imagine that my text message, however well-intended, must have touched a raw nerve. If that was the case, I deserved at least a, "Hey, what kind of crap are you trying to pull..." not a scuttled date, followed by the "silent treatment."

[commplt]

Yeah u should have waited till she got there. If she didn't agree you could have parted ways. Kind of a touchy subject to put on a text. Even though your intentions were good.

[Willen]

I've tried to hook up with her a couple of times in the past. Thought we had it worked out, but final confirmation never occurred. So it seems to be the case that she has communications issues, but she's has good reviews over a pretty lengthy period. Seems to me this is one of those cases where you go in knowing the potential set up problems.

[handyGiraffe]

GV....You were upfront with your expectations....and she proved to be unable to communicate in the face of a free meal...

HG

[foxyred73]

damm it ..not good on her part she miss out on good guy for the evening

[rex-man]

Damm. I have never had a problem with Amber but YMMV ... I am sorry bro

[mirandalee]

WOW not my girl Amber, sorry babe a simple text "I cant make it after all " wouldnt have hurt.

[Biggysmalls]

Dude- agreeing to meet at a steak house for drinks and perhaps a nice steak would make one assume it was "off-clock". What the fuck could any normal person expect other than a great steak (for free) a few drinks (for free) and then make 200-300 per hour doing something they claim to enjoy.
I dunno bro- id say fuck it and move on. Some of these people expect way too much.
My attorney charges 250 per hour and lives in a 900k home (i know cuz i built it) and i often take him out for drinks and or dinner....and trust me he never charges me for that.
Call me cynical, i dont really give a fuck, but 3 clients per day at 250 per hour is 750 per day. thats a annual salary of 150k per year working only 4 days a week and a few great vacations....

this is by no means an attack nor a slight on Amber- she has a great reputation and seams to be a great provider. I just needed to vent.

Id say let the complainers go fuck themselves, and allow the real appreciative providers take up the slack.

Ohh and one more thing...."Pepper Mutha-fuckin Springfield"

[Guest052912]

Aww sorry that happened to you. I always enjoy our nice off the clock dinner dates before our BCD time.

XXXOOO
AM

[mirandalee]

It is nice to go out and have a nice meal and enjoy company, thats how you build a nice rep. I have even had guys bring lunch or dinner to me and we eat together off the clock ofcoarse but I love what I do and love to keep my guys happy thats why they always come back to me. They would vocuh for that too muah...

[Guest052912]

Continued ......
You and I have established a friendship over the years, so I enjoy our dinners before BCD. I wouldn't do an off the clock dinner with someone I have never met. If there was nothing discussed beforehand she may have been under the assumption she would be paid for her time. The text msg you sent just to clarify may have pissed her off so she decided not to go ahead with dinner. Totally understandable, but I do think it was not cool to just blow you off. It only takes a few seconds to send a text msg.
It's just the right thing to do if that were the case. Hopefully she is okay and nothing happened to her.

XXXOOO
AM

[Guest101618]

Escorts are paid for their time, not what happens BCD. How you choose to spend that time is up to you. Some guys hire escorts to accompany them to social events and other things besides what might happen BCD. It is best to try and be clear like the OP was. I'm sorry it didn't work out for him, she is a lot of fun.

It is important to not make assumptions about money and time. Both of those are important to client as well as the provider.

[lasvegas]

i could be wrong but i dont think that was the issue... a simple reply is the issue... just as the escorts are paid for time.... time for the clients are just as important... and most people HATE wasting their time , when it could be avoided with a simple text or response that states... "hey i cant make it". takes two minutes.

[Guest101618]

I agree that there should have been some communication from the provider. I wasn't clear concerning my comments. Happens when I'm thinking about the ladies...



There was a post or two earlier in the thread alluding to the idea that assumptions could be made about time on-clock vs. off-clock. I just wanted to make the point that assumptions can get you into a lot of trouble. That comes from personal experience. I agreed to a nice afternoon tryst with an ATF a good while back. On the way to the meet she suggested we catch lunch and I thought that was an OK idea. The cost of the appetizer, lunch, dessert, top shelf drinks, etc. took all my disposable cash. Next time I'll go to Taco Bell.

[handyGiraffe]

Rover----This was not an alert....it is in Coed Discussions ....and I don't think there is a such of a thing as Private markers in the public threads..

The key is..like you said...never assume...it makes an ASS of U and ME