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Old 02-26-2012, 08:04 PM   #1
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I have a possible moral quandry related to security (albeit not mine).

I saw a provider I haven't yet reviewed a little while ago, and although she was a sweetheart and everything went as one might hope, I did note some concerns about her incall arrangements. I'm loathe to be specific because I am skittish, but suffice to say that circumstances were such that it would be trivial to track down her actual living home. After the session, I suggested practices that might do something to remedy that, but she seemed unconcerned.

I want to be clear that this is not some kind of james bond thing where you could bug her phone or something, but that it was massively and obviously in your face what her proper living address was. I suspect she is new to the profession and does not yet have a feeling what dangers can be associated with it.

I plan to see her again, and I am wondering if I should press the issue, or if there is any specific advice I could relay to her. If a concerned provider were inclined to offer insight, I would be willing to be marginally more specific in pms.

I plan to review, but I wanted to get some feedback on security/moral issues first.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:37 PM   #2
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I guess you have me in somewhat of a quandry because quite honestly that is really none of your business (imminent danger not withstanding) as to how, where or why she conducts her business kind Sir.....

.....on the flip side -- there are probably those who wonder why some people actually invite providers to their home

and last but certainly not least --- MORAL issues are always exactly one of the major subjects someone must bring (NOT) to an adult review forum discussion.....
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:45 PM   #3
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I guess you have me in somewhat of a quandry because quite honestly that is really none of your business as to how, where or why she conducts her business kind Sir.....
.....on the flip side -- there are probably those who wonder why some people actually invite providers to their home
I get that, but if you see someone dancing on a railing over a steep drop, don't you feel like you ought to say something? Maybe I should just mind my own business.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:09 PM   #4
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I'm of the belief you should at the very least point out not every man is as honest/caring as you, and there are some devious characters who will use her address for less than...noble purposes. To say the least.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:32 PM   #5
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I guess you have me in somewhat of a quandry because quite honestly that is really none of your business (imminent danger not withstanding) as to how, where or why she conducts her business kind Sir.....

.....on the flip side -- there are probably those who wonder why some people actually invite providers to their home

and last but certainly not least --- MORAL issues are always exactly one of the major subjects someone must bring (NOT) to an adult review forum discussion.....
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I guess you have me in somewhat of a quandry because quite honestly that is really none of your business (imminent danger not withstanding) as to how, where or why she conducts her business kind Sir.....

.....on the flip side -- there are probably those who wonder why some people actually invite providers to their home

and last but certainly not least --- MORAL issues are always exactly one of the major subjects someone must bring (NOT) to an adult review forum discussion.....
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You did your part by letting her know your concern. You have warned her not to dance on the rail overlooking the cliff. It's time to let go.
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:38 AM   #7
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I see you are newly joining our site and so you may not be aware that quite a few providers use their private residence as their incall. That is their choice. There a plenty of benefits and downfall for bringing hobbyists to your home; however, it is a common practice. You made your point to her and thats all you can do. Many hobbyists choose not to see ladies in a motel, many won't go to a private residence, and some dont like apartments. Others wont go to an incall altogether and prefer the provider come to his hotel or home. All of that is the discretion of the hobbyist and subject to particularly preferences; however, my experience is that most hobbyists care little for the type of location so long as they feel safe and their privacy is protected.
I'm typing on my phone so please forgive any spelling errors.
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:52 AM   #8
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Acknowledged. Thanks for info.
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:30 AM   #9
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None of his business? Not quite. He has a reason to be concerned if she is TOO visible, has too many fellows visiting her at a residence in, say, a quiet subdivision, where he could be the guy in her bed when the police show up. When I was on another hobby board, now defunct, a well-know provider there was busted in Oak Ridge North when too many men in and out alerted her neighbors, and the news media made it very public.

I would never see people at my home, and the suite I used to rent at a motel put off some fellows, as mentioned above, plus I got tired of it and wanted more amenities and the ability to project my personality through decor and make the place more comfy, so I settled on an apartment. A lot more traffic goes in and out of apartment complexes, even the nicer ones with security gates, so less likely who's going where will be noticed, and if you "accidentally let slip" that you do a little work out of your place (not run a full scale business, of course), then that helps the cover story. My apartment managers think I'm a theatrical performer and costumer who does script coaching and fittings at home. Helps that I trudge through the parking lot to the car in full wench wardrobe to attend various Renaissance festivals throughout the year, get gaudy for Mardi Gras, spooky for Halloween, Victorian for Dickens On The Strand, etc., and usually have an extra costume for a gentleman and a back-up for me tossed over my shoulder in a garment bag.

An aside to ferretbeast since he is new: please NEVER pinpoint a provider's location in a review. For example, in my case, "Apartment on Northside, easy access I-45" would be more than enough.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:30 AM   #10
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but suffice to say that circumstances were such that it would be trivial to track down her actual living home.

I want to be clear that this is not some kind of james bond thing where you could bug her phone or something, but that it was massively and obviously in your face what her proper living address was. I suspect she is new to the profession and does not yet have a feeling what dangers can be associated with it.
I do not really get what you mean by any of this. Is her incall her home? If that then i think ATX explain it pretty well, that's her choice, plenty others use their home as incall.

Or was she in a motel and she had an envelope or something else out in the open that says "my address is:___________." You told her and she did not care, so be it.

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After the session, I suggested practices that might do something to remedy that, but she seemed unconcerned.
You did your part. You told her what you thought may be a security issue and if she did not think it was, then move on, we all, both hobbyists and providers, have different levels of risk we are willing to take in the hobby. Whatever it is you think was a security issue, obviously is not one to her, but then...

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I plan to see her again, and I am wondering if I should press the issue, or if there is any specific advice I could relay to her.
It was obviously not that much of a security issue since you are planning to see her again. If i encountered something i thought was a security threat when i went to see a provider and i told her and she just shrugged it off, i would not go see her again, why would i put myself at risk.

That's why your post does not really make sense to me.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:08 PM   #11
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It was obviously not that much of a security issue since you are planning to see her again. If i encountered something i thought was a security threat when i went to see a provider and i told her and she just shrugged it off, i would not go see her again, why would i put myself at risk.

That's why your post does not really make sense to me.
As I said at the very beginning of my op, it wasn't _my_ security I was concerned about. I felt perfectly safe the entire time. The point of the post was the try to understand what one might feel obliged to do on noticing that someone else's security was apparently at risk.

I was previously under the impression that ladies who ply this trade tend to be quite careful. Reading what people have posted, I am gathering that provider carelessness about their own personal security is not terribly unusual, and that making my point and then minding my own business is probably the limit of my obligations.

Chalk it all up to naivety, I suppose.

I will say that this informs my opinions about legality of such activity, but I suppose that's been discussed ad nauseam elsewhere already.
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Old 02-28-2012, 03:15 PM   #12
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An aside to ferretbeast since he is new: please NEVER pinpoint a provider's location in a review. For example, in my case, "Apartment on Northside, easy access I-45" would be more than enough.
Yup. Have been doing.
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Old 02-28-2012, 04:31 PM   #14
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Sorry dennis I can't read it. PM if you prefer?
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:00 PM   #15
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