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			10-13-2010, 05:48 PM
			
			
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				MSOG why is it an upgrade?
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			I wonder why some providers upcharge for this when they have a time donation to begin with. Some do and some don't. Hey hobbyist and providers whats your thoughts.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 05:57 PM
			
			
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			I'll probably be slammed for saying this, but any provider who is advertising specific services in exchange for money is playing with fire. Being an escort is not illegal. Exchanging sex for money is. How difficult is that to understand? 
 
I request a specific donation for my time, and let the session unfold as it may, without rushing the client out before his time is up. I never feel pressured to perform any acts that I wouldn't be comfortable with, and if I did feel pressured, I am secure enough to convey that to the client maturely.  
 
If I were a hobbyist, I would stay away from providers who advertise for specific services, because many people who don't pay attention to the fine print in the laws often get sloppy in other areas, and none of us can afford to get sloppy. I realize this statement doesn't apply to everyone, but is a generalization based on my own personal observations over the years.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 05:57 PM
			
			
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			Upsell to MSOG s a deal breaker for me.  That is why this board is so valuable as an information exchange.  do the research and go with an established provider.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 06:25 PM
			
			
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			Natalie while I respect what you say I would imagine that is not an option for you. No disrepect intended at all. The boards are a great source for this type of information. We all know that we need to use our big heads when we partake. Both sides
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 06:47 PM
			
			
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				I'll probably be slammed for saying this, but any provider who is advertising specific services in exchange for money is playing with fire. Being an escort is not illegal. Exchanging sex for money is. How difficult is that to understand? 
 
I request a specific donation for my time, and let the session unfold as it may, without rushing the client out before his time is up. I never feel pressured to perform any acts that I wouldn't be comfortable with, and if I did feel pressured, I am secure enough to convey that to the client maturely. 
			
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I don't have a problem with this pov as long as there is independent evidence of what kind of a session I can expect.  I get very wary of a lady who has that disclaimer on her site (donation is only for time), and there is no way to tell what those sessions might be like.  I may be a cynic, but I assume from that scenario that, at most, I'll get an hour of conversation, nothing more.  And I can't complain: that's all I bargained for.
 
So forgive, Natalie, if I don't pull the trigger on these providers.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 07:00 PM
			
			
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				I'll probably be slammed for saying this, but any provider who is advertising specific services in exchange for money is playing with fire. Being an escort is not illegal. Exchanging sex for money is. How difficult is that to understand? 
 
I request a specific donation for my time, and let the session unfold as it may, without rushing the client out before his time is up. I never feel pressured to perform any acts that I wouldn't be comfortable with, and if I did feel pressured, I am secure enough to convey that to the client maturely.  
 
If I were a hobbyist, I would stay away from providers who advertise for specific services, because many people who don't pay attention to the fine print in the laws often get sloppy in other areas, and none of us can afford to get sloppy. I realize this statement doesn't apply to everyone, but is a generalization based on my own personal observations over the years. 
			
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Exactly.  Every session is different, and charging a man extra after he's already paid for one's time is unscrupulous at best and very foolish at worst.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 07:13 PM
			
			
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			I might step on a toe or two here as well, but I usually book at least two hours with a lady, and if she does not allow MSOG without upselling.....I won't be back !
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 07:22 PM
			
			
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			I look at this way if he can do it more than once in an hour than so can I without asking any extra for it.  
 
If a provider upsells for MSOG can the hobbyist pay less if they can't even do it once?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 10:28 PM
			
			
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				Natalie while I respect what you say I would imagine that is not an option for you. No disrepect intended at all. The boards are a great source for this type of information. We all know that we need to use our big heads when we partake. Both sides 
			
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No disrespect taken at all... especially since I believe you've made some assumptions about the type of service I provide simply because I said that I refuse to advertise specifics services. 
 
Those who know me also know that I would never allow a respectful client to leave my presence unsatisfied. For some men, that takes the whole session. Others have the time and physical ability to enjoy themselves repeatedly. 
 
I trust the "exchange" part of this community to do its job fairly well. The locker room, word of mouth and reviews exist to exchange information so that providers don't have to spell everything out in black and white.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 10:59 PM
			
			
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			Natailie, this is completely off the point, but I just have to say...you have the greatest ass.  Yummy
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 11:01 PM
			
			
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			Natalie Very nice reply. And  I stand corrected. I do like to know rather than guess so I get all the info. Reviews are also a good source. If your men are happy when they leave then you have done all they asked for.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 11:02 PM
			
			
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			And yes I agree with White Tiger. You do have a nice walkaway
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-13-2010, 11:32 PM
			
			
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			How dare you both get off topic to compliment my ass. I'm disappointed.   
Seriously, though. Thank you both. That's very sweet.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-14-2010, 02:12 AM
			
			
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			Good cum back Natalie! (lol) 
 
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With all due respect to you Ms. Mya...but, this statement is absurd...imho.  They pay the donation "for our time" as far as I'm concerned...he could sit in a corner with diapers on and sucking on a binkie...if that's what floats his boat for the hour. (lol)  
  
As for the upgrade on MSOG...I didn't even know there were providers that did that! Well, more power to them...and good-luck! (lol) Just means more hobbyists for me to see! (lol)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-14-2010, 09:23 AM
			
			
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				...he could sit in a corner with diapers on and sucking on a binkie...if that's what floats his boat for the hour. (lol)   
			
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You know some people pay more for that privilege right? *wink*
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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