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Old 09-27-2025, 05:44 AM   #1
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It is looking like the Democratic Party and its supporters are not ascendant in the near term. The midterms and the next presidential election could be a disastrous for the Progressive left, which seems dominant in the Party. Leads me to believe that 2016 was not a fluke and that the 2020 election was somehow not on the level.

No, I offer no proof. No startling video to link too. No scathing expose article posted somewhere.

Deep in my gut, I feel that there might be a connection between the failed attacks on Candidate Trump too.

And so, when asked, that is what I truly believe.

What about you?
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Old 09-27-2025, 07:50 AM   #2
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Who knows what to believe.

You can't trust the mainstream medai, podcasters can be very biased on both sides, law enforcement/doj is corrupt on levels that we have no clue about, the list goes on.

I believe that money rules the world, and a few have all the money. They've seen the wave of support for conservative/right views and they're backing into the shadows again. And without their support the Democratic party is being spot lighted as run by far left radicals.

I believe that 20% of the country is hard right conservative, racist to a good degree, but not violent. I think another 25% are just conservative (this is me), we need to help people, but not get taken advantage of by every one in the world. 25% are moderate liberal, tree huggers, donate to good will, disagree with granpa at thanksgiving on who should be president, also non violent. 20% are left liberal, fuck trump because he hurts my feelings, willing to talk shit online but not in person.

And 5% on both sides are fucking nut jobs that are disconnected from reality, live online exclusively, haven't touched a pussy ever, and are very violent, and very easy to manipulate. They're the ones the media concentrate on, for the splash of it.

I believe the mainstream media and democratic party are very responisble for the high profile killings, but also believe it could be false flag events from the deep state.

I take care of me and mine, debate with my liberal friends, buy pussy wholesale, and live my life.
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Old 09-28-2025, 06:08 AM   #3
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Sand247: Well said!

We can quibble about the percentages, but I think you have the categories right.
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A few of those old libbies need to move out to pasture and let some new ones in.
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Classic historical lesson, repeated over and over again....
When minority fringe groups don't get what they think they want, they resort to Anarchy.
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A few of those old libbies need to move out to pasture and let some new ones in.
"Old Liberals" such as Bill Mahar? He is a lone voice from the old school of American liberal thought. Martin Luther King wouldn't buy into the agenda or practices of the progressive left today. No would any of those civil rights leaders who knelt over his bleeding g body in Memphesis. Nor would presidents Carter or Kennedy.

President Johnson would have been ddelighted to have the weapons that President Trump used on Iran for the Viet Nam War. How old school is that?

Rep Barbara Jordan (D. Texas) opposed illegal aleans coming into the country, as did civil rights activist Ceasar Chavez.

The new blood leadership emerging in the Democratic Party are well out of the mainstream of American life today. The progressive left's woke agenda is viewed as bizarre and twisted by working class Americans. I am convinced that the tipping point has arrived and the Nation will soon awaken from this progressive-liberal neightmare.
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"Old Liberals" such as Bill Mahar? He is a lone voice from the old school of American liberal thought. Martin Luther King wouldn't buy into the agenda or practices of the progressive left today. No would any of those civil rights leaders who knelt over his bleeding g body in Memphesis. Nor would presidents Carter or Kennedy.

President Johnson would have been ddelighted to have the weapons that President Trump used on Iran for the Viet Nam War. How old school is that?

Rep Barbara Jordan (D. Texas) opposed illegal aleans coming into the country, as did civil rights activist Ceasar Chavez.

The new blood leadership emerging in the Democratic Party are well out of the mainstream of American life today. The progressive left's woke agenda is viewed as bizarre and twisted by working class Americans. I am convinced that the tipping point has arrived and the Nation will soon awaken from this progressive-liberal neightmare.

Flat out Marxism has taken over the extreme progressive and many young Democrats.


The Republican party really hasn't changed much in the last 25 years, it just seems that wsy as the left went off the ranch.
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Considering how many MAGA supporters are over the age of 65 how many will be dead in a decade? How will that affect the Republican’s slim majority?

https://sites.uw.edu/magastudy/demog...up-affinities/

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I am not confident of the statistics or the demographics, but it seems to me that a majority of voters chose President Trump.

The Turning Point America organization's basic goal is to educate younger voters in conservative values.

I truly believe that Charlie Kirk was was assassinated for that reason. . . .with or without any conspiracy.
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It is looking like the Democratic Party and its supporters are not ascendant in the near term. The midterms and the next presidential election could be a disastrous for the Progressive left, which seems dominant in the Party. Leads me to believe that 2016 was not a fluke and that the 2020 election was somehow not on the level.

No, I offer no proof. No startling video to link too. No scathing expose article posted somewhere.

Deep in my gut, I feel that there might be a connection between the failed attacks on Candidate Trump too.

And so, when asked, that is what I truly believe.

What about you?
The midterms seems like it's up in the air. It really doesn't matter who wins, America is fucked anyways. I can't say Democrats are going to sweep it but they're going to try and slam Trump and the Republicans with anything they can like his abilily or inability to control the mob at ICE facilities around the nation, lying about releasing the Epstein list, and the disastrous handling of the war between NATO vs. BRICS playing out in Eastern Europe, etc. Truly Trump is NOT meant to have peace, the banksters want war and the puppet must follow their orders.
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Who knows what to believe.

You can't trust the mainstream medai, podcasters can be very biased on both sides, law enforcement/doj is corrupt on levels that we have no clue about, the list goes on.

I believe that money rules the world, and a few have all the money. They've seen the wave of support for conservative/right views and they're backing into the shadows again. And without their support the Democratic party is being spot lighted as run by far left radicals.

I believe that 20% of the country is hard right conservative, racist to a good degree, but not violent. I think another 25% are just conservative (this is me), we need to help people, but not get taken advantage of by every one in the world. 25% are moderate liberal, tree huggers, donate to good will, disagree with granpa at thanksgiving on who should be president, also non violent. 20% are left liberal, fuck trump because he hurts my feelings, willing to talk shit online but not in person.

And 5% on both sides are fucking nut jobs that are disconnected from reality, live online exclusively, haven't touched a pussy ever, and are very violent, and very easy to manipulate. They're the ones the media concentrate on, for the splash of it.

I believe the mainstream media and democratic party are very responisble for the high profile killings, but also believe it could be false flag events from the deep state.

I take care of me and mine, debate with my liberal friends, buy pussy wholesale, and live my life.
You're definitely correct that the mainstream media cannot be trusted as they are completely biased. Define money? What is "money" in 2025? But yes inflation is making the rich richer and the gap between the top 1% vs the bottom 99% has widened even further. The USD's strength is waning on the global stage and the BRICS moving away from using the USD and Euro is realized. They've set up their own banking system to challenge the West and they're building gold vaults in respective countries for settlement. Gold's strength is a reflection of this divorce between West vs. East. Western oligarchs vs. Eastern oligarchs.


Your demographics breakdown on society was interesting. Here you say, "I believe that 20% of the country is hard right conservative, racist to a good degree, but not violent." Since when is it ever good to be racist to a good degree? Personally I believe everyone is racist, every culture of people is racist. If you're the "out guy" or minority in someone else's society you're gonna be fucked with. It seems to me the only way to truly end racism in America is to give the land back to the Native Tribes, the people the land was stolen from but we know that's not going to happen. That means sending everyone else back home to their ancestral homeland.

My demographics breakdown for the country is that 90% or greater of the total US population is totally brainwashed on how America really works when it comes to internal politics, geo polotics, finance, and war. The mainstream media and education system being the main culprits no matter what form the propaganda is transmitted from. The media whores are just reading off a script and if they deviate and try to be a hero by telling the real news they will be fired. They're just employees working for a very wealthy person.

When you say, "I believe the mainstream media and democratic party are very responisble for the high profile killings, but also believe it could be false flag events from the deep state." I say deep state.
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For years, I have heard that the various militia groups are a serious danger to American society and the Republic. Turns out they haven't been . . .not really. They may talk a great game online, but are ineffectual when it comes to doing anything in reality. The folks on the right that that are smart en ought to be dangerous actually have jobs, family and a life path that makes overturning the government a bad idea.

That doesn't seem to be the case with Antifa, BLM and whoever else is throwing rocks at federal vehicles and opposing enforcement of our laws with fire and violence.


On the right (and perhaps a few the left too) here is a whole generation of well trained veterans of the Global War on Terror that know that what we have here at home, however flawed it may be, is better than anything else. They do not gather in groups in the streets to riot or loot. They vote.
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Goodness. The same broken record shit every week or two with a different title. You should get tired of saying the same shit over and over and over and over.
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Flat out Marxism has taken over the extreme progressive and many young Democrats. ...
Marxism or socialism. The former was realized by its founder that it would not work. The latter I am not opposed to.

But maggies don't realized they've been groomed to be a Cult of Personality. And history shows how that went. Rule over the sheeple.


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I am not confident of the statistics or the demographics, but it seems to me that a majority of voters chose President Trump.

The Turning Point America organization's basic goal is to educate younger voters in conservative values.

I truly believe that Charlie Kirk was was assassinated for that reason. . . .with or without any conspiracy.

TPA basic goal was emblazed on the canopy that its founder (?) was killed under. Selfish basic principal and goal. I wouldn't buy into it.
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Goodness. The same broken record shit every week or two with a different title. You should get tired of saying the same shit over and over and over and over.
To repete a different theme here: I do not write to influence those who cannot or will not change. Rather, I write in the hope of reaching someone who is not fully committed or who does not fully understand who the progressive left is and what they stand for.

The leftist agenda has not changed, and we read posts by those who support it all the time here. Why would anyone expect that my criticism of the leftist's agenda would change . . .or cease?

If my thoughts bother you anyone here, perhaps the root cause of their discomfort does not lie with me, but comes from within themselves.
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