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Old 03-20-2021, 10:47 AM   #1
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Default The Hill Elizabeth Warren fuels class warfare with new wealth redistribution ideas

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For the purveyors of identity politics, there is no surer bet than leading the masses against the "super rich." Since philosopher Jean Jacques Rousseau spoke of "eating the rich" during the Reign of Terror, politicians have had an insatiable appetite for class warfare politics.
© Greg Nash Elizabeth Warren fuels class warfare with new wealth redistribution ideas In her "wealth tax" legislation, Senator Elizabeth Warren insists she is merely nibbling on the rich but still can seize $3 trillion over the next decade, a figure challenged even by one Biden administration economist. Warren has also included an "exit tax" to stop the rich from fleeing. Not surprisingly, it is wildly popular outside of super rich circles. It also is arguably unconstitutional and manifestly impractical. Yet, in Washington, bad policy often makes for good politics.

Warren would impose a 2 percent annual tax on the net worth of households and trusts above $50 million and a 1 percent surtax on the net worth of those above $1 billion. She is not the only politician pledging to soak the rich. Some state legislators have proposed their own versions. The difference between the federal and state proposals is that express language of the Constitution would seem to bar a wealth tax. Article One permits Congress to "lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises." However, it requires that these "be uniform throughout the United States." The next section says "no capitation or other direct tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken."
A wealth tax is a "direct tax." While James Madison and Alexander Hamilton disagreed on the constitutionality of such a tax, they agreed a direct tax under the Constitution would include a wealth tax. Hamilton agreed with Madison that a direct tax could be a tax "on the whole property of individuals or on their whole real or personal estate."
There are good faith arguments that a wealth tax would be constitutional, and there are cases on both sides of that issue. However, the problem does not end with Article One. When the 16th Amendment was ratified, it allowed for federal income taxes, and only income taxes: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
Putting aside the dubious constitutionality of Warren's tax, there are even greater practicality problems. Valuing wealth from real estate to luxury items would require a massive increase in the Internal Revenue Service and a huge increase in reporting responsibilities. Warren seems to acknowledge how much of a bureaucratic increase is needed: The bill mandates a breathtaking $100 billion increase in IRS funding over the next ten years.
Even with a massive increase for 2021, the IRS annual budget is just over a tenth of that figure, at $11.92 billion. Warren also seeks to mandate a greater number of annual audits for this engorged IRS to conduct: Each year, one third of those covered would be audited, on everything from cars to art. Such calculations would require establishing not just their purchase price but their current market value.
Then there is the practical problem that billionaires are mobile - not fixed - tax sources. Put simply, they can leave. That is what happened in other countries pursuing a wealth tax, which found the practical enforcement of such taxes was more difficult than assumed. France lost 12,000 millionaires per year and later reversed course with tax cuts, to try to lure back the wealthy. Only a handful of countries are still trying to make such taxes work.
Warren believes she has a solution to that, too. It is another tax, of course. Call it a "captivity tax." If you decide you do not want to be the subject of what liberal tax expert Josh Bivens calls the "very big experiment," Warren threatens to hit you with a confiscatory tax of 40 percent of your net worth (above $50 million). Thus, if you accumulated stuff worth $500 million, Warren would make you leave more than $180 million as the price to be free of her tax regime - it is pay or pray.
Of course, not only will many consider leaving before such a tax is imposed, but many billionaires are likely to have second thoughts about coming to the United States (and investing here) if they will be captive to the Warren tax like some money mastodon stuck in a tax tar pit. The promise of being audited for everything you own every three years down to your last Cartier watch is not very appealing.
The captivity tax highlights the wealth-redistribution mindset underlying Warren's "experiment." Warren thrilled audiences for years by telling the rich she was coming after "your Rembrandts, your stock portfolio, your diamonds and your yachts." In one Democratic debate, she got applause by rubbing her hands together after saying she would take some of the wealth of fellow candidate John Delaney, a self-made millionaire worth $65 million. She has now made good on that threat.
Warren and most of her colleagues have, of course, not made such fortunes. But where others make wealth, her skill is taking wealth from others, and she believes she has achieved the holy grail of the taxing set: Preventing flight with a captivity tax. She hopes to now pursue Delaney and others for their art and diamonds and they won't be able to escape, even on their now-fully-audited yachts. It is like a tax version of a canned hunt.
Biden administration officials like Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen recently said they are considering this option and other tax increases to help pay for trillions in new spending. But the problem with a Rousseauian diet is that it is as addictive as it is rich. It relieves politicians of responsibility for uncontrolled spending by fueling a type of class warfare. It all may collapse in court, but that is years - and trillions of dollars - down the road.




Lizzie and her socialist /communist nut case economic advisors - who failed in france with Hollande - are still at it - from teh anti freedom and pro - socialist state of Massasucksit.
she hates the stock market adn Wall street - and is right on board with goveernment control of all aspects of life of teh people - except for Lizzie adn her fellow nomenklatura.

she will impoverish america by driving out freedom , free enterprise , and the people who provide jobs to Americans - all to have America universally at the communist government teat.

she is a criminal communist - as Bernie adn AOC - deserves to go serve a long term as apeon in teh 'socialist Paradise' of Venezuela.



Howling, uninformed, Lying marxists may now yammer and spew XiNN propaganda in what passes for response from teh indoctrinated by XiNN!
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Old 03-20-2021, 11:06 AM   #2
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Can we get Marjorie Greene to just bitch slap pokahontas?
And tell her to sit down and shut up!
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Separate Houses - but a wonderful thought
anything to shut up that communist bitch.
Mitch? - but - sadly - No.
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Old 03-20-2021, 11:36 AM   #4
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Separate Houses - but a wonderful thought
anything to shut up that communist bitch.
Mitch? - but - sadly - No.
I knew the different houses. We just need a woman that doesnt back down or take shit to get some of these women under control.
Like a "wood shed" moment!
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:04 PM   #5
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Amen, good sir

the entire marxist party needs teh 'woodshed"!
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What amuses me is how many politicians think they can convert a democracy into a dictatorship.
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Careful what you say
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Careful what you say
You gonna RTM him?
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Good article, that describes the cons of a wealth tax, and how Warren uses class warfare to excite her base.

When she was running for president, she proposed a wealth tax that would top out at 6% annually on the net worth of very wealthy people. Sanders one upped her with a proposal for a top wealth tax rate of 8%. Apparently they've lowered their expectations, for now, as they're proposing to "only" take 2% to 3% of everything a wealthy person's got, annually.

In a generation or two we've seen companies like Tesla, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Facebook arise and become world beaters. I wonder if that would have happened if our federal government had taken 6% every year from the capitalists who created these companies.

Warren would argue her plan from a year or two ago would be the great leveler, and reduce inequality. I'd argue she's right, it's a great leveler, but in a different way. It would give the Europeans, Chinese and Japanese a leg up in creating great, entrepreneurial, world-dominating businesses, because they wouldn't be starved of capital like ours.
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Ms. Lied about her heritage simply again proves herself clueless.
Without the capital reward, there's no investment, without investment, any organization or business withers away and dies.
So technically, she ends up putting her voter base out of work, and sends them to the unemployment line.

A short paragraph, you all are lucky, I can run this concept for an entire 3 hour lecture.
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:14 AM   #11
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Sen fauxahontas - is just fine with the results of her plan as UC wrote concisely above.

i would welcome teh long version - but the Groupthink DPST's do not have the attention span to comprehend the Facts and Truth!


lizzie wants a marxist America with all means of production controlled by herself (government) and all Americans on the Soylent Green New Deal breadline handouts of her Marxist Rule. (Quote - 'Let's do this!!!")
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Funny how the elites now want to give away other peoples money
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:56 AM   #13
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they want to be in control

no other possibility

in the name of fairness they want power

every decision they make, they receive validation as to their worth, its intoxicating to be so important

the founders drew upon the evidences of the ages and the brilliance of real thinkers

these people hang freedoms and liberties and private property, they are in control, never mind the bankruptcy of their shallow, ill-considered lives and philosophies, as if they have the knowledge of new and better ways, when all they really have is thirst for importance

they have the estate tax, and now the life tax?

and so they reel from one idiocy to the next
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NGIT - thank you - good Sir - thoughtful as always.
The DPST marxists are all about lying their way into Power - and then the only recourse to their marxist 'paradise' - will be force of arms.
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