We did everything wrong

[HedonistForever]

An admission from the Trump administration? Nope, an admission from the Obama/ Biden administration on the handling of the H1N1 virus with Biden in charge of handling the response.


But we Americans have very short memories including myself because I didn't remember anything about this and I lived through it as a well versed in politics adult. We sometimes tend to forget but what is amusing is that someone like Biden is now all about his wisdom and what he would do with no mention of his past mistakes. Take a listen to a remarkable admission that I'm betting not very many Americans will hear. Think they will be playing this clip on CNN, MSNBC? A headline in the Washington Post or New York Times? Don't bet on it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c2PmErlEzQ


A very long Politico article that also covers Ebola and some of the stuff about Trump but I'm only going to post the stuff on H1N1 as it relates to Biden. I love this headline.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...1-virus-232992


Biden has fought a pandemic before. It did not go smoothly.

The Obama administration's ability to stop the swine flu came down to luck, one former aide says.

It was April 2009 and the 3-month-old Obama administration was desperately grappling with the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression when homeland security adviser John Brennan arrived at the Oval Office to warn the president and Vice President Joe Biden of a new crisis: H1N1, the swine flu virus, was showing signs of rapid spread in Mexico, while cases were popping up in California and Texas.

Brennan pointed out that the Spanish flu — the deadliest pandemic in U.S. history — was an H1N1 strain. “It made their eyebrows go up,” Brennan says now, recalling Biden’s reaction in particular.

The next week, Biden made good on his pledge — and set off a deluge of criticism. In an interview on NBC’s “Today,” Biden said he wouldn’t advise his family to fly on planes or ride the subway.


“I wouldn’t go anywhere in confined places right now," Biden said. "It’s not that it’s going to Mexico, it’s that you are in a confined aircraft. When one person sneezes, it goes everywhere through the aircraft.”


Airlines angrily accused Biden of fearmongering. Media reports noted that Biden’s pessimism contrasted sharply with the reassurances President Barack Obama had given a day earlier, when he said there was no need to panic even as he declared a national health emergency. In a matter of hours, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Deputy Secretary of State Jack Lew were summoned to the White House and assignedto clean up the mess Biden made: “Nip it in the bud,” LaHood said, recalling their instructions.


By 4 p.m., the three officials were hosting a news conference and backing away from the vice president’s words.


The snafu was the first of many scrambles and setbacks by the Obama administration in its initial response to the swine flu. POLITICO interviewed almost two dozen people, including administration officials, members of Congress and outsiders who contended with the administration’s response, and they described a litany of sadly familiar obstacles: vaccine shortfalls, fights over funding and sometimes contradictory messaging.


“It is purely a fortuity that this isn’t one of the great mass casualty events in American history,” Ron Klain, who was Biden’s chief of staff at the time, said of H1N1 in 2019. “It had nothing to do with us doing anything right. It just had to do with luck.



If anyone thinks that this can’t happen again, they don’t have to go back to 1918, they just have to go back to 2009, 2010 and imagine a virus with a different lethality, and you can just do the math on that.”


It isn't all critical and even tries to give Biden some credit but Klain can't take back those words he uttered.


Read on if you want.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

22 million infected but only 4,000 dead. The government can't do much after you have it so the pertinent number is how many infected. 22 million...Obama, Pelosi, and Schumer assured the American people everything was good until November of 2009. 11 months after the first deaths.

[Strokey_McDingDong]

How do you efficiently handle a worldwide epidemic? For things like contact tracing and lockdowns to work, you would need to have totalitarian control over the population. Probably, the best thing we can do is fund research into infectious diseases so we can at least anticipate certain events and plan vaccinations and potential treatment ahead of time.

[oeb11]

CDC Estimates of 2009 H1N1 Influenza Cases, Hospitalizations and Deaths in the United States

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm



During the pandemic, CDC provided estimates of the numbers of 2009 H1N1 cases, hospitalizations and deaths on seven different occasions. Final estimates were published in 2011. These final estimates were that from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010 approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1. These final estimates are available at: Estimating the burden of 2009 pandemic influenza A (H1N1) in the United States (April 2009-April 2010), Shrestha SS, et al., Clin Infect Dis. 2011 Jan 1;52 Suppl 1:S75-82.



TRBC - from the CDC - as above - 60.8 million US cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million),

and - 12,469 deaths (range 8868-18,306)

[HedonistForever]

Like the man said ( we ) Obama and Biden just got lucky that it wasn't a more lethal virus. "Their" lower death rate had nothing to do with how well they handled their pandemic, it was pure luck.


But it's beginning to sound like Biden just might have the chance to show us how he would handle COVID if elected. I hear some of the experts saying that if COVID isn't licked come Jan. and we have COVID and the Flu at the same time, we could be in even worse trouble and what will Biden do if the doctor/ scientist say we have to lock down the entire country and anybody that can't work from home will have no job? What do we suppose the American people will say about that? Fuck that would be my guess.

[oeb11]

Biden is a senile puppet - and the DNC will discard him pronto for radical marxist harris if biden is elected.

The first POTUS to be booted by the 25th amendment.

DNC propaganda is lying that harris is a 'moderate' - trying for centrist votes - harris is no moderate - she fits in nicely with her marxist revolutionary parents, Berkely college, and mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot,
She will be the real POTUS - in name - then fact - if Biden is elected.

[rexdutchman]

^^^YUPPER^^^

[HoeHummer]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Biden is a senile puppet - and the DNC will discard him pronto for radical marxist harris if biden is elected.

The first POTUS to be booted by the 25th amendment.

DNC propaganda is lying that harris is a 'moderate' - trying for centrist votes - harris is no moderate - she fits in nicely with her marxist revolutionary parents, Berkely college, and mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot,
She will be the real POTUS - in name - then fact - if Biden is elected.

Yous want to bet on that? You’ve been saying stupid shit like this for weeks, oebsy.

Why not put your “money” where your mouth is?

I wouldn’t be surprised if yous could get big odds on that proposition.

Maybe a parley, eh?

1) Biden removed from office using the constitution
2) Civil war breaks out in the USEh
3) USEh becomes Venezuela
4) Monkeys fly out of your butt

Put some money down now, great prognosticators! Yous might make a few loonies and twoonies.

Whaddya Dayenu, oebsy?

[sexykarma]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

Yous want to bet on that? You’ve been saying stupid shit like this for weeks, oebsy.

Why not put your “money” where your mouth is?

I wouldn’t be surprised if yous could get big odds on that proposition.

Maybe a parley, eh?

1) Biden removed from office using the constitution
2) Civil war breaks out in the USEh
3) USEh becomes Venezuela
4) Monkeys fly out of your butt

Put some money down now, great prognosticators! Yous might make a few loonies and twoonies.

Whaddya Dayenu, oebsy?

Number 4 looks like the most likely. Just straight action on that one for me.

Sooooo many people living with the delusion that Biden is Hitler and this country is Europe.

Biden = Kick the can down the road.
Trump = Kick the can down the road and a heavy, steady dose of lying to go with it.

Same shit, different election. When's the last time we had a president worth talking about....Reagan?

[dilbert firestorm]

hoey why are you even here? you dislike USA so much that you would use USEh instead.


so up yours hoeshit.

[oeb11]

sk has swallowed the revolutionaly marxist lines of the DPST's - hook, line,and sinker.

narrative matters

it is hard to actually think for oneself when One is trained in teacher's Union schools not to do so.

After all - math, science, history, civics, and geography are all "racist" - Only marxism can be taught - and that all white folks are genetically born racist!!!

[Tsmokies]

Putin did everything right though. He appointed trump to really really fuck up the USA. Putin would love to see America look even more stupid

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Tsmokies

Putin did everything right though. He appointed trump to really really fuck up the USA. Putin would love to see America look even more stupid

so you are saying Putin wants Biden?

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Tsmokies

Putin did everything right though. He appointed trump to really really fuck up the USA. Putin would love to see America look even more stupid

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

so you are saying Putin wants Biden?

biden' gonna be more like a carpet... walked all over with a whimper.

[Tsmokies]

Biden/Harris will be walking on air after they evict the putin/trump family cartel.

Wonder how many dems will be supporting trump at his reality show convention? Biden had a lot of Republicans trying to make America smart again