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Old 11-04-2018, 06:04 AM   #1
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Default To tell the Truth

Former New York Times Chief on Journalists: We are Intellectual Prostitutes



Every once in a while, journalists demonstrate that they can tell the truth–if even such an occurrence happens behind closed doors.
“There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar weekly salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone.

The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities, and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.” —
John Swinton, the former Chief of Staff for the New York Times, New York Press Club in 1880. (h/t:M)
As stated: occasionally, behind closed doors, journalists do tell the truth
The rest of the time, by one of their own’s admission: they are guns for hire, writing for their pay and their paymasters, whatever the traffic will bear.
Regardless of how many barrels of ink they spill squawking about “defending the citizens’ freedoms” and other such nonsense.


From 1880- yet still true Today.
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Old 11-04-2018, 06:21 AM   #2
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We have many polite fictions we maintain. I wish the truth could be told more often.

"Diversity is a strength"

"America is the freest country in the history of the world"

"Fidel Castro was a socialist"

"Neil deGrasse Tyson is Mike Tyson's uncle"
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Old 11-04-2018, 07:16 AM   #3
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Surely you can find something from before 1880!
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Old 11-04-2018, 09:31 AM   #4
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"Neil deGrasse Tyson is Mike Tyson's uncle"

wha??? Iron Mike is Neil's uncle????
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Old 11-04-2018, 09:32 AM   #5
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Surely you can find something from before 1880!



well, they did have name calling and politics of personal destruction before 1880. it was mush nastier than todays discourse.
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Old 11-04-2018, 09:58 AM   #6
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It was?

Please indulge us...
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Old 11-04-2018, 10:11 AM   #7
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It was?

Please indulge me...

you mean you. no.
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Old 11-04-2018, 10:19 AM   #8
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Ahhh. So you weren’t really speaking from a point of knowledge.

Got it.

Thanks for admitting it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:09 PM   #9
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Ahhh. So you weren’t really speaking from a point of knowledge.

Got it.

Thanks for admitting it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

no. look it up yourself.


btw, the Roman politicians were much more nastier than the 1800's American politicians.
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:16 PM   #10
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wha??? Iron Mike is Neil's uncle????
Well, that guy in the bar told me that....but he was drunk...but I though mentioning the famous physicist and boxer would get me some likes on my post...to tell the truth...
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:21 PM   #11
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..to tell the truth...
'bout time!
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Old 11-04-2018, 04:56 PM   #12
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Nixon hated the media too because it was free to tell the truth. Now it's the enemy of the people for another GOP pos lies
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Nixon hated the media too because it was free to tell the truth. Now it's the enemy of the people for another GOP pos lies
Nixon hated the media because they were able to uncover his unlawful activities and bring them to the public attention.

President Trump distrusts the media because they make up and report on non existent crimes in order to sway public opinion in favor of the Liberal/Socialist/Progressive Democrat Agenda.
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Nixon hated the media because they were able to uncover his unlawful activities and bring them to the public attention.

President Trump distrusts the media because they make up and report on non existent crimes in order to sway public opinion in favor of the Liberal/Socialist/Progressive Democrat Agenda.

You mean like the media is not conveying properly the danger of this ragtag bunch of ninjas headed our way that Trump is spreading the alarm about!?

I trust they must be dangerous because Trump is wanting to send more troops there than he has in Afghanistan
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:37 AM   #15
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Nixon hated the media because they were able to uncover his unlawful activities and bring them to the public attention.

President Trump distrusts the media because they make up and report on non existent crimes in order to sway public opinion in favor of the Liberal/Socialist/Progressive Democrat Agenda.
It’s more excuse making from the same people who impeached a president (who got shit done) for lying about a blow job.

False equivalency.

And, untrue. Nixon was a raving, vindictive paranoid long before the press uncovered anything.

Seems little is different.

Can’t you add a few more adjectives to that “agenda,” Jackie? LOL!!!
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